109F4 I/JG52/ByNrRaVeN

[Nr_RaVeN]

I/JG52/ByNrRaVeN
This is an upgraded version of an old in game skin 109F4 .
 many new layers and a more realistic rivet effect and paint work.
It's a Very unusual paint scheme .








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SLIDE SHOW LINK HERE

[caldera]

Uber! 

[The Fugitive]

It seems to me that both the 109F4's you done are too bright/sharp. The same with Mus51's Black 13. Maybe you guys have the sun real bright for your screen shots, but they seem like gloss paints instead of flats. As an example Greebo's Typhoon looks more like I think they "should" look. Of course what do I know 

Other than that, I think the detail is great as well as the colors.

[TwinBoom]

 

[USRanger]

I love it!

[lyric1]

My only concern is based off the photo there seems to be a fair amount of green on the aircraft even though they only make mention of two colours & your skin seems to lack any green at all? A bad colour picture maybe?

[Greebo]

That's a great looking skin of an unusual scheme. 

I'd agree with Lyric about the colours though, despite the caption the colour looks to be a lot more green than grey on the photo. Perhaps the specularity could be notched down a bit too.

[Krusty]

I think the colors are a tad too dark.

I also notice you have not skinned the parts of the spinner that reside on the left/right/top/bottom of the fuselage. It has sections on the fuselage, oil cooler, and upper cowling portions of the skin. These will need to be the same color as the spinner.

[Reschke]

My only concern is based off the photo there seems to be a fair amount of green on the aircraft even though they only make mention of two colours & your skin seems to lack any green at all? A bad colour picture maybe?

I don't know if it is a bad color photo or just an old photo that was used long after it was taken and might not have been stored properly. OR it could just be the way the lighting was when the photo was taken. I have seen some LW camo grey that when the sun hits it a certain way that turns a shade of green; maybe that is the color that was used in the camo pattern instead of a true grey.

[Nr_RaVeN]

Thanks guys  

The thing to remember about a colorized  photo from the 40's is that its not very accurate  it may look green but as you may notice in lots of colorized photos were the sun hits tends to show as a blue green especially when its an older color photo that's exposed to UV light as the above shot is.
Look at the bottom of the camo netting, its green too. Some green would be cool for sure... I just dont think its accurate.

As far as the sheen of the finish, here is the short version.
As many of you already know the Luftwaffe paint of that time period depending on pigment was primarily a "ketone resin film.... much like a lacquer paint finish..
It had a semi sheen /shine. This aided in aerodynamics. These ac were actually waxed and polished to help limit drag. They were not Flat like Primer.

Yes weather conditions  very much effected the paints, again very much color dependent the sheen could range across the boared dependant on the UV heat cold ect.
I would tend to lean twored a sheen (not high Gloss) over the flat primer look on lufft AC. they dint have a Tank primer flat finish.

Even the weathered pre-restoration AC I have seen, most lately FW white 1, It is now being restored in Florida. still have a sheen to the paint and its been over 60 years worth of ageing.

I cant speak to the typhoons or spits finishes as I don't have the books on the type of paint technology was used on the as I do for the German ac.
 I do see that restored Typhoons do have a sheen to them but that doesn't mean they did during ww2.

I will re dile this number and see if I can find a happy medium for the sheen  and still maintain the accuracy of the true paint sheen.

Along with perhaps lightening her up a bit.
 for some reason on the computer I'm on now looking at the slide show... the wings look all color banded ... They are not on the skin. Must be compression. It took me HRS on end to rid the skin of that issue...  

and those  wavy lines OMG what a pain in the BLEEEEEEP.  

Thanks For all the input Guys
 Its helpfull to get lots of view points
RaVe

[lyric1]

In that case on the green nice job.

[valad94]

Sexy

[Nr_RaVeN]

Hows this for a happy medium?

[Greebo]

That finish looks better to my eyes Raven, although you obviously know way more than me about LW paint. I should have realised that first photo was colourised.

[The Fugitive]

That looks better to me too