Originally posted by F4UDOA:
Gents,
First Naso I don't understand your arguement saying that since there was only one varient of the C205 then since there was only 200 produced thats ok. And since the F4U-1C was a small representation of a 12,000 plane production but had the same number produced it is not ok? The most produced of the F4U series was the F4U-4(1,800 delivered before the wars end) but that would "upset the balance of play in the arena right? So basically I have to live with an early model F4U to make the LW pilots feel better? We have 4 different Me-109 including the G10(really a K-4) which is late war and uber being the fastest climbing and fastest straight ahead A/C in the game with a cannon. And by the way has almost exactly the performance in climb 4800FPM
and speed 451MPH at 26,000FT as the F4U-4. The difference being that the F4U-4 is best at 450MPH were the 109 is stuck in mud. Were there 1,800 Me109G10(K4) built during the war? Then why should the F4U-4 be perk only?
Well i try to explain better,
Talking just about numbers will build an arena governed and dominated only by US planes, with results, you, USiron lovers, will fight only other US kites, loosing the pleasure to compete with LW or axis planes.
Just because US and SSSR buildt more planes than others.
Pointing at the fact "the F4U-1C was produced in the same number of the mc205" is pointless because the 200 mc205 produced are the
TOTAL number of this kite produced, the 200 F4U-1C produced were
PART of 12.000 total.
Go back in time and imagine you as a allied pilot over Italy, if you encounter a mc.205, you encounter a mc.205V.
As a Japaneese pilot if you encounter a corsair you have 1/60 of possibility to encounter a C model, more probably you will fight with a D model.
Better compare them as top on the line for their class.
Sorry if i am not enough clear but since English is'nt my language it's difficult to explain for me.
And, maybe is better to explain one fact:
I usually flight EVERY plane of the planeset, mc.202 and F4U-1C included, so i am not a LWlobbyst, but i wish to have an historical matchup, in a time-balanced arena (is my wish, only a wish, not an I quit issue
)
It's funny to imagine to be in Pyro's shoes for a moment:
When you think about a famous airplane to model, you think:
For Italy one of them cut be the mc.205
For US one of them cut be the "corsair"
Then you model both.
First problem:
The F4 had lot of variants, wich one i will model?
The more produced corsair (i think) might be the 1D model, and it participate to most of the actions in PAC, cut be a symbol of the "Corsairity".
Now let's choise a plane for germans, FW190 raise on mind.
Wich model?
well, a 190A5 is representative enough.
Now we go to examine playability:
MC.205 = in the main is for sure not uber, but since is the last Ita fighter produced in acceptable number and had seen action, nothing better i can introduce, may be in future i can think to introduce the G.55, to give the "Pasta boys" a toy to play in equal with others (hint hint
).
F4U-1D = Good playability in MA, with a dedicated pilot cut be one of the top fighters.
FW190A5 = Solved some problem with the FM, has become a medium fighter in MA, no need to integrate, the same of above as dedicated pilots.
Now people from my biggest customer base raise up asking me a variant of the F4 with 4 HS, well, no problem.
Introduced in the arena this kite have the magic to become uber, the good capability of the F4 to reach a firing solution, melted with an amaizing 1 shot 1 kill possibility (i think accurate too, since HS were the best cannons of 2ndWW), this plane cut be little unbalancing, but big part of pilots find a solution to defend from it and the former dweebmobile become only one of the "ubers".
Now the luftlobbie start asking somethink similar at wat was asked for corsair: a better version, the D9.
Nothing special, supposely, just more capable to fight at alt and speed, with numbers in percentage of total production, and realistically a lot used at the time.
And here the war started.
"If Luftlobbyes have the dora i want the f4u4 (whaaaa!!), he was buildt in 1.800 !!!, he went in action at least twice !!
."
Someone argued "but will be too uber."
"I dont care, i want it i WANT IT !!!"
WHAAAAAA !!!!
"And i want the me.262, Whaaaa!!!!"
When you go to sleep you will have nightmares of an arena full of me-262 bouncing over a huge blue furball of F4U4, with only quakeheads playing and cussing, and you crying for the players of the hardcore type and of the representative type gone to play WW2online.
LOL, definitely a dont wish to be in your shoes Pyro (S!), in this kindergarden.
Think, someone has been so childlish to ask for a Me-163, sheees
....
Hey, why are you all looking at me??
Seriously, i think the real uber at the moment is the NIKI.
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Naso4° Stormo Caccia "F.Baracca"L'è Buna!!
