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Offline Denholm

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Re: Squeaker directing air traffic at JFK
« Reply #90 on: March 06, 2010, 09:24:25 AM »
Ok, consider this. Both the ATC and his super gets no disciplinary action against them and the story is panned by the media as 'harmless'. Then, another ATC decides to do something similar, then another and another...etc. When some ATC does something really boneheaded and a tragedy occurs, then what?

If this goes unpunished then they are opening a can of worms that could result in loss of life and confidence in the system. The established rules of conduct must be maintained and improved upon, when needed, in order to protect life, assets and public confidence.

I'm surprised that some of the real life pilots in this thread fail to recognise the gravity and consequences of failing to correct conduct like this. Sure it was harmless this time, but what is the cost of inaction.



And once again, we don't have any information pertaining to when the child was allowed to "distract" controllers. It could have been on the statistical low of traffic at the airport. As someone mentioned earlier, if the traffic picked up the child would have probably been asked to leave.

I understand what you're saying, and agree to an extent. Yet once again, the only information we have is there were two children who were allowed to talk on the frequency.
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Re: Squeaker directing air traffic at JFK
« Reply #91 on: March 06, 2010, 09:41:33 AM »

I'm surprised that some of the real life pilots in this thread fail to recognise the gravity and consequences of failing to correct conduct like this.


Think for a moment on why that might be.

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Re: Squeaker directing air traffic at JFK
« Reply #92 on: March 06, 2010, 11:25:49 AM »
And once again, we don't have any information pertaining to when the child was allowed to "distract" controllers. It could have been on the statistical low of traffic at the airport. As someone mentioned earlier, if the traffic picked up the child would have probably been asked to leave.

I understand what you're saying, and agree to an extent. Yet once again, the only information we have is there were two children who were allowed to talk on the frequency.

The FAA has already stated the Feb 17 (the 2nd incident) was about 7:30 PM............. I believe I read somewhere that the Feb 16 (the 1st incident) happened somewhere between 4:30-6:00

but Im not real sure there is ever a time at one of the busiest airports in the world that isnt busy........ they had originally said the kids were brought to work because they were off school due to snow....... schools must run pretty late in NY I guess

as for the whining about networks relating the other incident where a plane crashed....... I think that has everything to do with this story....... it was made as an example of what happens when controllers are distracted..... the very thing we are talking about

I personally have mixed feelings about the whole issue....... this is something that has happened probably thousands of times...... and I dont recall there ever being a case where something went wrong from this sort of thing......... I let my 10 yr old daughter drive my tractors all the time......... she has her own 4 wheeler which shes allowed to go riding with her friends........ and she has her own shotgun which she takes when we go hunting......... all of these things carry some risk if someone got distracted.......... so bring a kid to work isnt that far of a stretch

on the other hand this is a job that holds hundreds of lives in the balance at any given moment....... the guy isnt an accountant........ and while there were others around and a supervisor........ in the right set of circumstances this could have had a tragic ending........ nothing did go wrong....... but something could...... it seems the risks involved here far outweigh the reward...... not something I find favorable...... and I certainly hope theres no kids in the tower anytime Im on a plane

in the end it all boils down to what I said earlier....... were there any laws or rules broken.... the rest of the story should proceed accordingly
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Re: Squeaker directing air traffic at JFK
« Reply #93 on: March 06, 2010, 01:17:27 PM »
fliperk, you still gonna go to the store in your car today?  Cause alot of baaaaaaaaaad things could happen if you do that.

ToeTag, i dropped the arguement awhile back ago

Besides, at least I am licensed to drive and will not be breaking any regulations by driving to the store
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Re: Squeaker directing air traffic at JFK
« Reply #94 on: March 06, 2010, 02:33:27 PM »
Some parent let their kid near you? I feel sorry for the poor boy  :rolleyes:
I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but...

What's up with the completely stupid post 4440?
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Re: Squeaker directing air traffic at JFK
« Reply #95 on: March 06, 2010, 04:10:53 PM »
It's a sarcastic tongue in cheek comment from one friend/colleague to another.

Lighten up, Francis.

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Re: Squeaker directing air traffic at JFK
« Reply #96 on: March 06, 2010, 05:25:21 PM »
It's a sarcastic tongue in cheek comment from one friend/colleague to another.

Lighten up, FYB.
Oh... Woops, sorry to bother then.  :o
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