Author Topic: so what did the 202 have against the spit5?  (Read 861 times)

Offline Vermillion

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so what did the 202 have against the spit5?
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2000, 08:45:00 AM »
 
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Currently I am wondering why P-47 is such a pig.. (compare it to typhoon with heavy and light loadouts) I've always liked P-47, thats why i am wondering

This from the guy, that was complaining about the P-47 performance in 1.03 just days prior to the 1.04 release???

And Pyro and Gatt had a very long discussion concerning the performance of the C.202, versus some historic data that the Italian players provided, shortly after that aircraft was released.

It ended when Pyro offered to consider changing the C.202 if anyone could show (mathematically and aerodynamically) how it could possibly perform to that level given its physical characteristics. No one came forward with more information.

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so what did the 202 have against the spit5?
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2000, 09:18:00 AM »
Fd,
it was not written in 1944. It comes from a letter to the author of some time ago. They used the 109E and the C.202 during fighter pilot training. He compared the C.202 with the 109E becouse both mounted the same DB601 engine.

Verm,
the discussion with PYRO ended when we agreed that official data about climb performance were somehow wrong. Max speed is still wrong, IMHO. Moreover, I'm not an engineer nor a flight model wizard. I'm simply a player.

Look, I dont whine cuz I like to do it. Actually, *now* I like the C.205 FM. But I remember well when the "Veltro" was a real brick. *Now* she can do what WWII italian fighter pilots and many books say she was able to in the right hands. The C.202 is still very far from that, IMHO, but lets wait for Hurricanes and P40's.


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so what did the 202 have against the spit5?
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2000, 09:46:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Vermillion:
 This from the guy, that was complaining about the P-47 performance in 1.03 just days prior to the 1.04 release???

Other planes have improved since then also  
I don't give mercy for flight models even if its one of my favorite planes *G*

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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2000, 10:27:00 AM »
Gatt, you may very well be correct on the performance, I honestly don't know myself. My point was that there has been open and intelligent discussion on that aircraft's performance. And Pyro was open to suggestions on the aircraft if it could be backed up with hard data. Not some kind of super secret "anti-Axis" conspiracy as Fishu suggested.

I do have to say that I have flown the C.202 in the Med arena against Spit Vs, in multi-plane versus multi-plane encounters, and I thought it was competitive. IMO, its greatest weakness was its lack of cannons, and overall anemic firepower, which is quite historic from my understanding.

And Fishu, "I don't give mercy for flight models even if its one of my favorite planes *G*" And I do?   Am I supporting the "anti-allied" conspiracy all of a sudden?  

My point was that in 1.03 you were proposing that it was too good and its performance trimmed back. Now in 1.04 all the other aircraft got better, and the P47 stayed the same. Isn't that the same net effect?

A-1=B  (reduce P47 performance to equal planeset)

is equal to

A=B+1 (improve planeset, to equal P47 performance)

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so what did the 202 have against the spit5?
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2000, 01:19:00 PM »
See this thread:
 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000846.html



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