so what did the 202 have against the spit5?

[Citabria]

was it similar to a 109 vs spit5?

or could the real one turn and maneuver with it.

this is important for scenarios otw in the med arena.

if the 202s lack of turn ability even when stripped down to two guns and no fuel dosnt come near the spit5 then scenario numbers would need to be adjusted to account for the handicap the 202s are flying with.


the 202 has no snapshot.

its guns demand either a pilot kill or a tracking shot and both are unlikely vs a spit5.

as modelled the 202 is actually much slower in level flight than the spit5.

so is it accurate?

by the way why were the spit squadrons in the pacific forced to B&Z if the real spitfires were this maneuverable?

[funked]

"by the way why were the spit squadrons in the pacific forced to B&Z if the real spitfires were this maneuverable?"

Because the Brits weren't always flying Mk. V and the Japanese weren't always flying the A6M5.

[gatt]

Citabria,
the real C.202 had a maximum speed of 370mph TAS at about 18,000ft. This was her strenght. The debate about her climbing performance is old and I'm tired.
Fact is that C.202 performed well against P40, Hurricane, Spitfire MkII and then MkV.
Obviously our "Folgore" lacks something in her FM.
Thats why you wont see me in the incoming Africa scenario. Cannon fodder? No thanks.

[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 09-28-2000).]

[Fishu]

I can tell you that in AH, C.202s will be seeing Spit V sprinting past it..

[Duckwing6]

No wonder they are called "Speedfires"

[Vermillion]

 

Thats why you wont see me in the incoming Africa scenario. Cannon fodder? No thanks

There are plenty of other aircraft types to fly. Both Axis or Allies. Fly one of the 190's, both are quite capable against the Spits.

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**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[juzz]

What was the big difference between a Spitfire Mk V in the ETO and one in the MTO/Nth Africa.....? Hint: AH has a mint condition ETO Spitfire Mk V.

[LLv34_Snefens]

In the new Med terrain my most succesful plane has been......the 202  


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RO, Lentolaivue 34

[wells]

Folgore is like a 109E

[Vermillion]

Juzz, my guess would be fuel quality.

Particularly if its from midwar on, after the Americans started shipping in huge quanities of high quality avgas.

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**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[MC202]

In real life:

1.   Speed (not in this game)

2.   Climb/turn (not in this game, wing area alone does not equal lift, wing profile and area do. Then add in all forms of drag. I feel the M.C.202/205 are not quite right. Hell, check out the climb and speed of the 850hp M.C.200)

3.   Damn strong airframe, better than a P-40.

4.   In real life the controls were light and  ballanced at all speeds and the airframe gave good "feel" or feedback. None of this will show up in a computer game, but in real life lets you get 100% from your aircraft.

5.   The Brit birds had mucking big sand filters to slow things down.

MC202
Dino in Reno

[VISCONTI]

I leave AH cause HTC have no ear.
I always told that the 202 need more work to reach a close hystorical FM, and i have always told that the MG are completely WRONG modelled.

We hare in contact whit people that flew these birds against spits, p38, p40, hurrycane, we know what these planes are capable to do in real life but HTC will not consider that, they have theyr idea and in AH world they are GOD and GOD never do mistake.

Why u expect that HTC will reconsider that argument??? Is only a stupid italian airplane put in the game to gain italian market not to represent an hystorical model.


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stiamo cercando di unire tutti gli italiani
vi forniro' tutti i dettagli. senza impegno  

[jmccaul]

Numbers ?

HTC can't do anything on feel.

Speed (sea level, max)
climb (intial, best)
wingloading
powerloading
hp of engine

[GRUNHERZ]

Hi

YEP giant sand filters for the spits!  Little bitty ones for the 109s.  

[Fishu]

 

Originally posted by VISCONTI:
I leave AH cause HTC have no ear.
I always told that the 202 need more work to reach a close hystorical FM, and i have always told that the MG are completely WRONG modelled.

Why u expect that HTC will reconsider that argument??? Is only a stupid italian airplane put in the game to gain italian market not to represent an hystorical model.

I hope they'll fix the C.202, it is nice plane, specially when it is early/mid war.
Hopefully they will do the same for German planes as well..