flat spin recovery

[chewiex]

I hate when you depart from flight in a TA-152 and wind up in a tail-low flat spin. I have never found a way to recover even from high alts above 20K. The closest I have come is winding up inverted and still in the spin, lol. What a way to blow great alt advantage.   

[kingcobradude]

yeah my pony always tries to spin, but I can recover. when a p38 does it, different story

[1carbine]

Yeah dirt helps that you can get alot of it for cheap you should pick some up sometime 

[Gwjr2]

try it in a DR1 lol its a 30mph fall somehow I got out of it at 75ft AGL lol

[Ack-Ack]

yeah my pony always tries to spin, but I can recover. when a p38 does it, different story

If you get a P-38 into a spin, you screwed up big time.  If you can't recover a P-38 from a spin, you should seek the help of a trainer. 

ack-ack

[Yossarian]

RV-8 and Spitfire I have horrible flat and/or inverted spins.

I often find (especially in the Spitfire XVI) that 'rocking' your throttle between 0 an 100% helps you get your nose down more quickly after a stall.

[kingcobradude]

If you get a P-38 into a spin, you screwed up big time.  If you can't recover a P-38 from a spin, you should seek the help of a trainer. 

ack-ack

it was perfectly horizontal, I put my controls everywhere i could, everything was working as intended until I spun out

[Ack-Ack]

it was perfectly horizontal, I put my controls everywhere i could, everything was working as intended until I spun out

You screwed up, that's why you got into a spin.  It's basically the only way you can spin a P-38, it doesn't depart naturally very easily and you really have to work at it to cause it to do so.


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[kingcobradude]

You screwed up, that's why you got into a spin.  It's basically the only way you can spin a P-38, it doesn't depart naturally very easily and you really have to work at it to cause it to do so.


ack-ack

howd i screw up? i just banked right and it spun left

[Ack-Ack]

howd i screw up? i just banked right and it spun left

You're in a P-38, made a bank to the right and got tossed into a spin to the left?  Where you flying with one engine and got into an accelerated stall?  Did you enter into an asymetrical power induced spin?  Honestly, from your description of "banked to the right and spun left" is a clear indicator that you screwed up big time.  In all the thousands of sorties and hours flying the P-38, I have never, never gotten into a spin like you describe.  Hell, I wouldn't even know how to get into a spin by simply banking right unless I cut off the port engine (#1 left engine) and pulled really hard on the stick while banking right and try and get the wing with the dead engine to lose lift and throw me into a spin.  Even then, I'd really have to work hard at getting the P-38 to spin.  

As you can see, it is very hard to get the P-38 into a spin unless one is very careless and allows themselves to get into a situation where a spin is possible.  The Lightning is probably one of the most gentle, forgiving planes to fly in AH.  You really, really, really have to twittle up to get it to do what you claimed it did.

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[kingcobradude]

You're in a P-38, made a bank to the right and got tossed into a spin to the left?  Where you flying with one engine and got into an accelerated stall?  Did you enter into an asymetrical power induced spin?  Honestly, from your description of "banked to the right and spun left" is a clear indicator that you screwed up big time.  In all the thousands of sorties and hours flying the P-38, I have never, never gotten into a spin like you describe.  Hell, I wouldn't even know how to get into a spin by simply banking right unless I cut off the port engine (#1 left engine) and pulled really hard on the stick while banking right and try and get the wing with the dead engine to lose lift and throw me into a spin.  Even then, I'd really have to work hard at getting the P-38 to spin.  

As you can see, it is very hard to get the P-38 into a spin unless one is very careless and allows themselves to get into a situation where a spin is possible.  The Lightning is probably one of the most gentle, forgiving planes to fly in AH.  You really, really, really have to twittle up to get it to do what you claimed it did.

ack-ack

both engines full power, no screw up of any kind. maybe a glitch, but i aint worried about what got me into the spin, I jut want to recover

[Strip]

Spin recovery is marvelously easy, chop power to outboard (in relation to spin) engine.

Strip

[W7LPNRICK]

110 is the only one I have trouble with spinning once in a while. If I have alt, I can recover. It usually happens when I do one of those near stall desperation, tail flip turns, when the stall horn is going crazy. If you don't spin, you usually clear your 6. 

[Widewing]

In most aircraft, kill the engine(s). Throttling back is often insufficient. Shut it off, get the nose down and restart. If you lack the altitude to do that... C'est la vie.


My regards,

Widewing

[Steve]

In general, chop throttle, push nose down, opposite rudder. I've never decided if any amount of flaps help

In the 51: full throttle, roll to the left, flaps will just help it begin to fly again a bit sooner. The throttle is especially useful for an inverted flat spin, it will help flip the plane over.