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Offline Ack-Ack

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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 12:29:50 PM »
both engines full power, no screw up of any kind. maybe a glitch, but i aint worried about what got me into the spin, I jut want to recover

If you spun the plane to the left while at full power making a simple banking turn to the right, you screwed up.  Period, end of story.  The only glitch you encountered in the flight was one of your own making, it's that simple. 

The best spin recovery technique is not to get into a spin in the first place.  You should be worried why you got into such a dramatic spin while doing a basic flight maneuver (banking to the right), otherwise you'll just keep screwing the pooch and getting into spins you can't recover from.


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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2010, 01:01:57 PM »
Ack-Ack,

We get it, P-38's wont spin if flown properly, get off of it already....

There is not an unrecoverable spin in the P-38 given enough altitude either.

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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2010, 08:13:38 AM »
If you spun the plane to the left while at full power making a simple banking turn to the right, you screwed up.  Period, end of story.  The only glitch you encountered in the flight was one of your own making, it's that simple. 
Sounds like he had an accelerated stall with the ailerons deflected. The rising wing (left in this case) will stall but the lowered one (right) will not. In a plane with long wingspan relative to body length this means a very strong sudden yaw to the left. Perhaps in the right conditions and certain stick responses it can lead to a spin. It could be due to anything from flaps retracting, spiking stick or, yes, pilot error.
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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2010, 04:50:06 PM »
To quote Dwane Cole," Let go of everything and wait till it does something you recognize."
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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2010, 04:58:04 AM »
Sounds like he had an accelerated stall with the ailerons deflected. The rising wing (left in this case) will stall but the lowered one (right) will not. In a plane with long wingspan relative to body length this means a very strong sudden yaw to the left. Perhaps in the right conditions and certain stick responses it can lead to a spin. It could be due to anything from flaps retracting, spiking stick or, yes, pilot error.

It's exactly what happened to him.  He's too ham fisted and as soon as he tries to turn, he pulls hard full back on the stick and gets into an accelerated stall.  When I was dueling him earlier, I told him to listen to the stall buzzer and explained how it worked.  He had know idea what it was for, thought it was a horn that told you when your plane was close to falling apart from stress.


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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2010, 02:15:32 PM »
It's exactly what happened to him.  He's too ham fisted and as soon as he tries to turn, he pulls hard full back on the stick and gets into an accelerated stall.  When I was dueling him earlier, I told him to listen to the stall buzzer and explained how it worked.  He had know idea what it was for, thought it was a horn that told you when your plane was close to falling apart from stress.


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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2010, 02:39:39 PM »
I think what AK-AK is trying to say, is that you cant recover from a spin you cant get into.
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Re: flat spin recovery
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2010, 02:42:55 PM »
ACK ACK!!! WE GET IT!!!!! I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW TO RECOVER FROM A PERFECTLY HORIZONTAL FLAT SPIN!!

Don't be so ham fisted on the controls and listen to the stall buzzer, the louder it gets the closer to the stall you are.  The best spin recovery is knowing how not to get into that situation.


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