Remove WEP from the Birdcage Corsair

[Saxman]

The post about WEP duration in one of the other forums got me thinking about this:

The R-2800-8(W) with water injection wasn't introduced into the production line on the F4U-1 until after the switch to the bubble-top canopy, with all these F4U-1s built with the bubble canopy being redesignated as 1As. Very few, if any, Birdcage Hogs used the 8(W) unless they were retrofit in the field.

Since we now have the F4U-1A, WEP should really be removed from the F4U-1.

[Krusty]

I tend to agree with ya. Little to no differentiation between the two versions now (a little bit of horsepower here or there), this suggestions would make them more individual.

That would make the -1 a much better candidate for "early-early" setups, and the 1A more suited for "early" setups in events/setups.

[Guppy35]

Now that's the sign of a true Corsair fan.  Make it accurate above all else.  Very cool to see.

[TwinBoom]

<---waits for AKDogg to jump in here and defend his bird 

[whiteman]

funny it never crossed my mind even after reading the VF-17 biography and the mentioning of that. In fact i think some of VF-17's early -1A's didn't have WEP either, but lets not go there.

[Shifty]

but lets not go there.

Too late dumba**  

Now that's the sign of a true Corsair fan.  Make it accurate above all else.  Very cool to see.

I'd be even more impressed he actually flew the 1A. 

[Krusty]

Meh, fans want it to be good

I'm a fan (to pick another example) of the 109 line, and I'm perfectly happy that the F-4 lost the gondolas, that the G-6 lost the 30mm and galland hood, etc. Makes for a better chronological timeline of representative planes.

[Saxman]

I'd be even more impressed he actually flew the 1A. 

Actually I do fly the 1A.

funny it never crossed my mind even after reading the VF-17 biography and the mentioning of that. In fact i think some of VF-17's early -1A's didn't have WEP either, but lets not go there.

The 8(W) was introduced early enough in the "1A" line, though, that it should definitely still have WEP since most were built with this engine.

[Shifty]

Actually I do fly the 1A.

The 8(W) was introduced early enough in the "1A" line, though, that it should definitely still have WEP since most were built with this engine.

I meant -1 I made a typo in my haste to be a smarta**. 

[SIK1]

While you're at it the VF-17 birdcage skin should be removed as well. VF-17 never flew the birdcage corsair in combat. They had transitioned to the 1A before they were deployed.

[Shifty]

While you're at it the VF-17 birdcage skin should be removed as well. VF-17 never flew the birdcage corsair in combat. They had transitioned to the 1A before they were deployed.

This is true VF-17 deployed on the USS Bunker Hill for Carrier Qualifications with F4U-1s. None of which saw combat as they were replaced with 1As when the squadron went operational in the Solomons. Gee Whiteman thanks for piping up.  
Actually there are a couple famous VF-17 F4U-1 photos in most books. I think that's why people assume they flew the -1 in combat.

[SIK1]

LOL don't be too hard on him Shifty. I'm a big fan of VF-17 and have wondered for a while how we got the birdcage skin (which I use btw).

IIRC it was the Charger that VF-17 flew the -1's off of for the most part including their carrier qualifications. They did use Bunker Hill towards the end of their training phase but most of their carrier work was aboard Charger.

[whiteman]

Gee Whiteman thanks for piping up. 

hey i mentioned the -1A not the -1 , i figured if Krusty hadn't noticed that skin never flew combat nobody ever would. this my vote to keep it in, unless some one wants to skin another VF-17 -1A to replace it or we could be consistent and skin a VF-17 4-Hog that didn't fight either.

[Shifty]

LOL don't be too hard on him Shifty. I'm a big fan of VF-17 and have wondered for a while how we got the birdcage skin (which I use btw).

IIRC it was the Charger that VF-17 flew the -1's off of for the most part including their carrier qualifications. They did use Bunker Hill towards the end of their training phase but most of their carrier work was aboard Charger.

My Jolly Roger by Blackburn book is on loan at the moment to a JG-11 guy... You may be correct I'm going by Ospry's Corsair Aces of WWII I can't find any mention of the Charger just the BH.
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[whiteman]

They Qualified on Charger and shipped out to the Pacific on Bunker Hill. They were unloaded at Pearl Harbor and loaded on the Prince William and headed for Espiritu Santo.