Firefox 3.6

[Skuzzy]

Well colored me confused then.

I know Firefox does not depend on Java, but there are WEB sites that do depend on the Java language (not just Javascript).  Does Firefox have native support for the Java language or does it require the Sun Java package to be installed to run WEB sites that are written in the Java language to run?

In the passed I had to install the Sun Java package so the crappy financial WEB pages would work as they have written thier sites in Java.  That has been the source of all my ills with Firefox.  I refuse to install the Sun Java package on my computer.  Stupid installation cost me a week of downtime.

Java and Flash, the worst things to happen to the Internet.

[TequilaChaser]

have to install the Java plug-in to access websites that require it in Fire Fox 3.6 ( just upgraded her from FF 3.05? )........... had to do that for Mom's PC... she is a pogo fanatic... it aked for the "new" Java plug-in what she currently had was an old version

Java auto-updater was turned off ( as it should be for those who use Java/JavaScript )

[RTHolmes]

Java's not builtin, you have install a JRE to run Java applets. my own bank does half of its authentication using javascript on the clientside, just a bizarre choice. I keep seeing more and more stuff done with javascript on the client side which should plainly be done on the server side. Well planned AJAX stuff aside, client/server web apps should run on the server, not the client.

[OOZ662]

I always thought Java was a Sun Microsystems product and trademark (ie nobody could make a different version of it). Interesting.

Yes, Firefox requires a Java plugin to view Java pages, however knowing the above and the Open Source community, there must be a better version than Sun's out there somewhere.

[Masherbrum]

I thoroughly detest, nay despise the whole "tab" approach.  I end up with a fraking mess on my hands everytime I try to use them.  Seems to add a whole slew of unneccessary clicks to the whole process of looking at WEB pages.  It is utter confusion run amok.

It I want to open a page in a new window, I can.  Right-click and open in a new window.  99% of time I do not want to do that.

Screenshot of my FireFox, which is just the standard interface with tabs open and a few add-ons in the bottom right corner.

EDIT: Looks like I blocked the Home/Back/Forward/Refresh buttons with the File menu, but they are pretty much emulating IE's. The Home/Back have a pulldown for recent history. One of my favorite features is the interface buttons/history/favorites work like hyperlinks; middle-clicking one will open it in a new tab, shift-clicking will open a new window, ect.

Both of you should use this Add-On to simplfy "Tabs" - ColorfulTabs.   It's one of the few I use and makes each tab a different color, so they stand out better.

[OOZ662]

Both of you should use this Add-On to simplfy "Tabs" - ColorfulTabs.   It's one of the few I use and makes each tab a different color, so they stand out better.

I'm a young whippersnapper; don't need no tab colors, my eyes work fine.

[Masherbrum]

I'm a young whippersnapper; don't need no tab colors, my eyes work fine.

       

[warhed]

Pipelining is a feature that speeds up internet connections. It's the same concept used by download managers. I can't explain why, but opening multiple connections to a server will result in a page or file loading faster. Some sites won't allow it, such as Rapidshare or Megaupload, unless you pay for their subscription, but up-to-date sites like that simply won't let you do it and therefor don't bring about any problems. Some of the older, hand-coded download sites may ban you for pipelining, however, as it puts a bigger strain on their servers.

I'm sure HTC would like to punch me in the face when I open up on the skins page, downloading them ALL at the same time, pipelined.

As for FireFox, I'm enjoying the new version except that they changed the tab mechanics a bit. Used to be when you middle-clicked to open a new tab, it popped up on the right hand side end of the list of open tabs. Now it opens next to the tab you clicked the link in. I got so used to closing the tab on the end without looking when I wanted to get rid of the newest tab that I am still closing tabs to websites I want to keep open on accident.

Follow these easy steps to fix the tab order:  http://www.mydigitallife.info/2010/02/01/change-firefox-to-open-new-tab-at-far-right-end-of-tabbar-disable-insert-next-to-current-active-tab/comment-page-1/

[Tigger29]

Must be an ancient version of Java that Skuzz is running:

Sun Microsystems had originally licensed Java to Microsoft  but finally initiated litigation against Microsoft for failing to adhere to the license agreements to implement the Java language specifications fully.

Some observers have remarked that this was deliberate from Microsoft, in an attempt to at least slow the advance of Sun's Java technology[3] [4].

The failure of the MSJVM to pass Sun's compliance tests was a large factor in the initial lawsuit. On January 24, 2001, this and all other outstanding Sun-Microsoft lawsuits were settled as part of a wide-ranging agreement between Sun and Microsoft.[5]. The settlement document outlined that Microsoft also could not advance J++ beyond its mirrored implementation of Java, version 1.1.4. This effectively ended J++ and further updates. As well, the MSJVM had to cease to be distributed and is no longer available for download.

However, due to settlement of outstanding litigation, Microsoft was allowed further to update the MSJVM to fix security holes and any problems relating to the security theater. Microsoft has since ceased support for the MSJVM on December 31, 2007[6].

The technology of J++ was eventually recycled, and survived for a while, as part of the Microsoft .NET platform and the J# programming language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B

Anyways, I personally believe that 90%+ of software out there today is way too 'intrusive' and that is one of the things I love about Aces High NOT being, but then again while I consider myself very knowledgeable when it comes to computers, I'm not a programmer and still don't see how Sun Java is all that 'risky'.. but then again I don't keep anything on this computer that I can't restore and as a result, don't go crazy when it comes to security.  I do hate how everything you install these days BY DEFAULT "runs on startup" and "checks for updates" causing several more programs running in the background, and if you turn it all off, if and when you do install an update, it turns everything back on again.

[OOZ662]

Follow these easy steps to fix the tab order

I knew there'd be an about:config setting for it, I just didn't know what to search for. Thanks

[Skuzzy]

Both of you should use this Add-On to simplfy "Tabs" - ColorfulTabs.   It's one of the few I use and makes each tab a different color, so they stand out better.

I detest "tabs" in the browser.  For me it is a clumbsy and cumbersome interface.

Tigger, the last time I installed the Sun Java crap, it broke several other applications (including IE, which prevented me from getting Windows updates) I had installed at the time.  Sun may know Solaris, but I will never trust a Windows product from them again.  Yes, they insist on dialing home and popping up a Window, when you least expect it, to tell you about an update.  Yes, another unneccessary background process.
You can shut that crap off, but they still manage to dial home when you are browsing around.

[Denholm]

Has anyone tried getting around Sun Java by using IE Tab for Firefox? I used it to obtain Windows Updates for Windows XP via Firefox, probably will run Java applications without Sun Java.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/92382

[OOZ662]

Has anyone tried getting around Sun Java by using IE Tab for Firefox? I used it to obtain Windows Updates for Windows XP via Firefox, probably will run Java applications without Sun Java.

IE Tab is not compatible with FireFox 3.6

EDIT: Or they've decided to not push the update through the autoupdater in FireFox. Then again, it is an "experimental version" of IE Tab.

[Denholm]

IE Tab 2 is. Check the link.

[Raptor]

I don't like Google Chrome's browser because of over simplicity, but perhaps Chrome is the browser for skuzzy?