The C Hog...Why Was It Not Perked?

[Ripsnort]

My perk list in order of cost (highest to lowest)would be as follows:

N1K
LA-7
C-Hog
TA152 (Should not be 50 perkies, way overrated)
190 Dora


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[funked]

Perk everything after 1943.

[R4M]

Out of curiosity, why do you add the Ta152 and 190D9, and let the 109G10, the P51D and B out of that list?.

My perk list would be:

Tempest: 70 points
Ta152H-1: 40 points
F4U1C: 4 points.

If we do the perk system so we can adapt the MA to a midwar scenario then:

Tempest: 80 poiints
ta152H-1: 50 points.
La7: 35 points
Fw190D9: 25 points
P51D: 25 points
N1K2: 25 points
F4U1-C: 25 points
P51B: 20 points
109G10: 20 points

[Apache]

I agree with R4M. If you perk the La7, logic would dictate perking the F4U1C, P51D, 109G10, Fw190D9 and the N1k2. Thats not in any particular order btw.

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[funked]

Field Marshall von Rammel, your list is good.  I don't like the values, but those are the right planes.

[Dmitry]

IMO its good as it is now... Why perk anything else? People fly different planes now, I see way more Spit V and 202 with 205. Less 109's but a lot of N1K's with some ZEKEs also.
Now dont need to perk Osty - just take it out of the game   hehe I hate those nasty Osty - specially when they hide in BH and kils ya right at spawn point on runway..  


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[Jigster]

I agree with Baron von Raminhof's list, albeit not on point values.

 

PS PERK WHATEVER IS POPULAR! Top 5. muy ha ha.

[Obear]

Gees guys your all perk mad   , i like the perk idear but to go over the top about it would be frustrating, i dont want to log on and find half the aircraft perked, would really spoil the choices. Remember that not everyone, including myself has the time to spend hours in AH clocking up perk points, it takes me quite a while just to get 70, one kill in a perked plane and i have to start again.

Perk planes are a nice idear and adds greater variables to the sim, but lets not double back and perk what we have so far.
Some of us unfortunatly only have very little time to spend flying this sim due to work, collage etc, and it can take a long time to rack up the perk points, but my buck is as good as anyone elses and i would hate to see my choices droped considerably though perking the aircraft we already have.

Also i would still like to see new aircraft comming out that are not perked and not have every new release containing nothing but perked planes.

Like I said, i actually like the idear of a few perked planes, gives you somthing to work for and adds a little variaty to the arena, but many times i see people flying the 152's or Tempest but they dont engauge dogfighting very often, instead they keep there distance and alt and will only decend if they are sure of an easy kill.
Whilst this is the whole idear about making the guys flying the SUPER planes think twice about attacking instead of being all gun ho, it would also make for a very boring arena if alot more planes were perked and everyone spend the entier time keeping their distance and waiting for the easy shot oppertunity.

Dogfighting and furballing at low alt would be rare, and alot of the fun would go and the only ones doing so would be the guys in the older aircraft or guys who have alot of time to spend on line that they rack up oints quickly.

Perked planes?  great idear!!! it has my vote but lets not get silly about it. Remember everyones idear of what AH should be and how much time they can allocate to it is diffrent. If everything next release is perked it will be a bit of a bummer but thats change. Just dont change what people already have, its what made them join in the first place.
 

Peace

[Torgo]

I find it unfathomable why so many seem keen on perking the La-7 when it:

1) Isn't all that popular

2) Doesn't have a particularly good k/d ratio.

You HAVE to perk the Dora if you perk the La-7 and I doubt many of the people who want to perk the La-7 want that :-)

People seem to think that the debate should be based on their own personal opinions of stuff rather than hard, cold, arena numbers.

But HTC is going to make its perk decisions, as they've said, almost SOLELY on those. The additions of the new AC have reduced the CHog plague enough that I believe the CHog avoided the inevitable perking that was coming, but it's still the most popular AC and has the highest K/D of the popular unperked aircraft.

Personally, I'd:

Make the CHog a 5 point perk

Drop the Ta152 to a 25 point perk..and possibly lower in the future. I don't see much chance of it taking over the arena.

There's no particular good reason to perk anything else.


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[Apache]

Just to clarify, in my earlier post, I was employing reverse psychology  . I don't want the La7 perked either.

[Ripsnort]

Alittle history on the C-Hog in Main, first month it was very popular, due to being a new plane.  Then next tour seemed as though the numbers died off, but a few Aces continued flying it.  Then the Whine threads began, popularity was fueled by the Whine Threads, and thus we have what we have today.

I expect the LA7 to follow the same path.

The N1K would have been the whine if the C-Hog had never come along.

Theres always going to be one A/C that stands above the rest, and there are always going to be those who whine about it.

BTW, I too whined about the Chog guns when it was first released, then they tweaked the guns to a more historical projectile, and I was happy with that.  Some evidently were not!  They also forget that the same guns are used in the Tiffy, Spit, P38L and..(I'm forgetting one..)

[R4M]

 

Originally posted by Torgo:

You HAVE to perk the Dora if you perk the La-7 and I doubt many of the people who want to perk the La-7 want that :-)

I rate the La7 as a better plane than the D9, and with a distinctive advantage. is more agile, and outperforms the D9 on everything under 7K,and outturns it at any altitude . Just you have to learn how to bring the fite down.

So if you perk the La7 I dont see the reason why you are FORCED to perk the Dora. BUT, said that, I dont feel like the La is a perk plane. In fact I feel it the same way I felt the La5FN when I was riding my 190A5   .



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[GRUNHERZ]

Ripsnort Chog only became a BS plane after 1.04FM change, I distinctily remember one Chog guy screaming on the first day of 1.04 something to the effect of this:

"OMG this thing can go vertical forever now!!"
 
And frankly its not just cuz of the complaing and that everyone goes to chog, if it was so bad a plane they all fly it a bit ten go back after they learn its poor MA plane. The fact is the Chog is the best plane plane in AH, it always has highest K/D and most kills. If all these idiots were just flyin it, wouldnt its K/D be low??
And dont any of say Fw190A5 has same K/D, yes it does but only gets 1/10 of the use and then almost only by dedicated LW expert types- It be almost no different than sayin p38 is best in AH by lookin at how citabria does in it.

Chog is best plane in AH no contest the tour numbers prove it!

And thats freaking pathetic for only 200 ever made, abslolutely minor variant of a really good plane. P A T H E T I C

Its no different level of BS than if we had Fw190 D11,12,13 dominating in MA- by chog standards these are just as significant variants of D-9 as chog is of dhog, and should be in MA unperked right? Somehow I dont think u chog whiners would agree.

Would all you chog whining cry-babies support the MA being full of Doras armed with 30mm cannons? Because we all know thats fine, only reason anyone wud fly one would be due to the complaints?

[sling322]

 

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
Ripsnort Chog only became a BS plane after 1.04FM change, I distinctily remember one Chog guy screaming on the first day of 1.04 something to the effect of this:

"OMG this thing can go vertical forever now!!"
 
And frankly its not just cuz of the complaing and that everyone goes to chog, if it was so bad a plane they all fly it a bit ten go back after they learn its poor MA plane. The fact is the Chog is the best plane plane in AH, it always has highest K/D and most kills. If all these idiots were just flyin it, wouldnt its K/D be low??
And dont any of say Fw190A5 has same K/D, yes it does but only gets 1/10 of the use and then almost only by dedicated LW expert types- It be almost no different than sayin p38 is best in AH by lookin at how citabria does in it.

Chog is best plane in AH no contest the tour numbers prove it!

And thats freaking pathetic for only 200 ever made, abslolutely minor variant of a really good plane. P A T H E T I C

Its no different level of BS than if we had Fw190 D11,12,13 dominating in MA- by chog standards these are just as significant variants of D-9 as chog is of dhog, and should be in MA unperked right? Somehow I dont think u chog whiners would agree.

Would all you chog whining cry-babies support the MA being full of Doras armed with 30mm cannons? Because we all know thats fine, only reason anyone wud fly one would be due to the complaints?

Ummmm...I am a little confused now.....who is doing the whining?

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[Sturm]

I really don't care what kind of plane the enemy is flying as long as I have a wingman, we will get him or make him run one or the other  

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