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Offline BiPoLaR

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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #75 on: March 27, 2010, 03:47:24 PM »
I thought you were gonna change your name and thus your demeanor?

What a sweet dispostion you have.

Must be a pleasure to be around.
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #76 on: March 27, 2010, 03:50:24 PM »
Im a very sweet man :) Everyone loves me

Lmao!

After that statement, I think I do too!! lol  :salute
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #77 on: March 27, 2010, 03:59:06 PM »
I agree. Beyond the necessary minimum, the main effect of better gear is making playing... let's call it: More comfortable.  A 300$ HOTAS stick doesn't make your plane turn better than a cheap twisty, rudder pedals do allow for some finer control but there's still nothing you can do with a twisty and the limit is still the pilots skill and knowledge when to use rudder and when not.

In most situations, players get shot down because if some sever pilot error, either in setting up the fight, misjudging the situation or faulty application of ACM - and not because they do have twisty & standard hat views and their enemy has a full HITAS, rudder, trackIR setup.

I think you're right, although the "necessary minimum" makes a huge difference - when I started palying AW it was with a mouse and getting a joystick with a throttle and hat switch was like night and day.

Beyond that, a good monitor makes a real difference. The player who can see more has a definite advantage.

As to the original topic: I'd add two more subsets of SA and one that I don't think has been mentioned. There's knowledge of the planes and their strengths and weaknesses, this is absolutely crucial. Then there's psychology: knowing what the other guy(s) is going to do before he does (of course you also have to be prepared for the possibility that he's smarter than you think!)

The other one is self-discipline. I get killed a fair amount doing things that I know I shouldn't do, but because I'm mad or have buck fever or whatever I do them anyway and end up kicking myself back in the tower. I'm sure I'm not alone in that, given the number of people I see doing things like chasing enemies into ship ack, creeping up on buffs' six hoping to win the gun duel, getting suckered into turning with planes that are much better at it, and so forth, that everyone but the newest players knows are bad ideas.

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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #78 on: March 27, 2010, 04:02:08 PM »
Are you saying that you would fight a war deliberatly making it harder for yourself? I'm sure that's not what you meant but I want you to consider what you are actually saying here. In training you simulate war, you make it hard, your drill instructors will replace the combat stress with other kinds of stress to see how you work under pressure and to force yourself to find out. Ok if you have military background I'm sure you know all this.

The thing is, in war you want to make it as easy as possible for yourself because you and your buddies are putting your lives at stake. You don't want to take any risks whatsoever if you can avoid it.

Training is the opposite of war, but still without unnecessary risks.

I think it's important to make the honest distinction between the two very different situations, I'm not sure why you don't here. AH is still just a game and people must be allowed to play the way they consider is fun. Skill has in that sense little to do with it. Skill also has little to do with score. I respect a skilled pilot and can tell in most cases within seconds whether I'm up against a skilled stick or not. Many "skilled" and/or talented pilots/players underestimate the importance of SA though which is totally crucial both in the MA but also during FSOs and other historically based events.
The same can be said of teamwork. Why do AH players think that skill is all solo and has nothing to do with the team? Pilots in WW2 lived and died with their buddies. We do the same here but few seem to actually realize that. Numbers matter, flying smart is part of the equation. Talent can get you a long way but if you don't use your brain you're not worth whatever aircraft you fly.

Just a humble contribution to the thread. Flame away.
What im talking about is train hard so when the time does come, it may be easier. I was having problems connecting it sorry :salute
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #79 on: March 27, 2010, 04:27:54 PM »
A "hardcore as they come" person would have had something better to say EMO boy.  

I'm dark, and sensitive, with low self esteem.  The way I dress makes everyday, feel like Halloween...........I must be EMO..........

Stop my breathing and slit my throat, I must be EMO.

Dye in my hair, and polish on my toes........ I must be EMO

I play guitar and write suicide notes, I must be EMO

I dress like I'm dead, and must be homo.......

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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #80 on: March 27, 2010, 04:29:24 PM »
Funny, but your girl sure was complaining about you last night......  EMO kid. 

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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #81 on: March 27, 2010, 04:33:03 PM »
Funny, but your girl sure was complaining about you last night......  EMO kid. 


thats worth a donkey-punch, maybe two
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #82 on: March 27, 2010, 04:33:51 PM »
thats worth a donkey-punch, maybe two
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #83 on: March 27, 2010, 04:35:51 PM »
I deserve at least three......  But I'm hoping he'll show us his toenail's all polished up.    :pray 

thats worth a donkey-punch, maybe two

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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #84 on: March 27, 2010, 06:43:56 PM »
I think Bipolar is in ICP. He scares me  :eek:
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #85 on: March 27, 2010, 06:49:32 PM »
I make jokes.... But calling him a clown? 

I think Bipolar is in ICP. He scares me  :eek:



 :headscratch:   .....  Actually, I guess that does fit.
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #86 on: March 27, 2010, 06:53:12 PM »
I can tell the precise time of every fight that my plane will explode.  That's real SA skill.  :aok
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #87 on: March 27, 2010, 07:08:17 PM »
Dude your nothing more than a flying proxy kill looking for a place to auger. I really hope you arent serious. Grizz would spank you 100 out of 100
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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #88 on: March 27, 2010, 07:17:41 PM »
The other one is self-discipline. I get killed a fair amount doing things that I know I shouldn't do, but because I'm mad or have buck fever or whatever I do them anyway and end up kicking myself back in the tower. I'm sure I'm not alone in that, given the number of people I see doing things like chasing enemies into ship ack, creeping up on buffs' six hoping to win the gun duel, getting suckered into turning with planes that are much better at it, and so forth, that everyone but the newest players knows are bad ideas.

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Re: What do you consider 'skill'?
« Reply #89 on: March 27, 2010, 07:29:44 PM »
And it worked......  But now he's stuck thinking of something really cool to say back.  Or he's really pissed and he'll ask me to duel......... (Notice how Grizz will take me 100 out of 100, yet I can't seem to get a number value for how good he might be) 

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His girl tells me he isn't actually all that good.................















In game...... I'm not talking about the other place she spoke about.   :aok
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