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Offline Bosco123

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Re: TOPGUN acm
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2010, 06:00:05 PM »
Personally, SA and timing are the best things a pilot can use to do just about anything. People can get by with one or the other, but the best know how to use both.

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Re: TOPGUN acm
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2010, 06:02:58 PM »
read very carefully.... THERE ARE NO SPECIAL MOVES ! The links people have given you ...and you keep fluffing off....are THE moves.

Practice is the only thing that will "get that guy off your tail".

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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2010, 07:27:20 PM »
Try reading the book No Guts No Glory by Frederick Blesse. There is a lot of good stuff in there.

If you want tactics for AH2 topgun is probably not what you want. Topgun covers tactics for heavy highspeed jets not light single engine piston driven fighters. Plus I bet the actual stuff that they teach in topgun is classified.
That's not the point TOPGUN I say is just a advanced level of dogfighting. I've been in this game awhile doing that the same stuff isn't enough. I gotta step it up,the basic merge just isn't gonna cut it.
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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2010, 07:29:26 PM »
You are wrong. The best pilots do not make a lot of fancy moves - they actually tend to make very simple ACM, but do the correct ACM in the right time and the right way. On top of that, if you are good and know what you are doing, you will not even NEED fancy ACM.

Also, do not et too hyped over top-gun. They still do pretty basic, small scale dogfighting. It is just that the other pilots do not do even that.
Yes,true but the way I see it the,maneuvers are simple but brilliant.
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Re: TOPGUN acm
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2010, 09:00:56 PM »
That's not the point TOPGUN I say is just a advanced level of dogfighting.
they train harder hence they "advance" it further, ask 1Duke1, Mace ( Mace2004 ), eagl or any others who are actual Military Jet Fighter pilots who play this game

I've been in this game awhile doing that the same stuff isn't enough. I gotta step it up,the basic merge just isn't gonna cut it.

U got to "P-E-R-F-E-C-T" your merge and then build on your ability from there........ prob 90% of the fights are won from whoever gains angle advantage 1st on the MERGE.....

early bird gets the worm, stealth..... you say you been in this game awhile, and not to be rude, but I been doing this game since 1999, and did AW, FA, CFS  & WB and 3 or 4 others before AH ( and still during  )......and I still learn things, heh, probally things I have done learned before and forgot 20 times over but I still learn stuff


there is no magic moves, no tricks, no gimmics......... it all boils down to one simple little thing

HOW FAR DO YOU WANT TO PUSH YOURSELF's ABILITY?   it is up to you and only you, in how far you want to advance your skill......... it is that simple....
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Re: TOPGUN acm
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2010, 09:15:19 PM »
That's not the point TOPGUN I say is just a advanced level of dogfighting. I've been in this game awhile doing that the same stuff isn't enough. I gotta step it up,the basic merge just isn't gonna cut it.

All Topgun is is pushing the envelope. Using the same moves just running them out to the ragged edge. That what everyone tries to do here in this game is push it right to the edge. After all if you screw up you get another plane here.

Be sure you have stall limiter turned off in the game so that you CAN push the planes to the edge, then get with a trainer. They will spot where your making small mistakes that get you in that position where you start thinking "how do I get this guy off my tail?"

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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2010, 09:20:23 PM »
Guys really I just made this post to see some new maneuvers to get a couple of ideas. Also to see some fighter formations that's it. Not if you ever use them or not.
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2010, 09:23:46 PM »
Yeah well,  we're clearly bored,  so thanks...
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Re: TOPGUN acm
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2010, 09:33:09 PM »
Guys really I just made this post to see some new maneuvers to get a couple of ideas. Also to see some fighter formations that's it. Not if you ever use them or not.

You must master the basics first, young grasshopper.  There are no magic advanced maneuvers that guys use that make them so good, it comes with practice and building off fundamental building blocks.
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Re: TOPGUN acm
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2010, 09:56:50 PM »
basically dont give him an easy shot.. make a small profile, and try to be turning into his flight path always.  Always be looking out of your plane at close targets, and move to make their shot difficult.

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« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2010, 10:01:41 PM »
You must master the basics first, young grasshopper.  There are no magic advanced maneuvers that guys use that make them so good, it comes with practice and building off fundamental building blocks.
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« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2010, 10:35:08 PM »
You know what's funny is, who else pushes either 2, 4 or 6 at random to check their six, when their not playing the game? I do it almost non stop now lol, just turning into a habit.

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« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2010, 10:45:14 PM »
Good habit during Aces High, bad habit during math homework!
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« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2010, 11:17:58 PM »
Just load some Kenny Loggins songs on your Ipod Stealth.  :aok

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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2010, 12:35:02 AM »
Just load some Kenny Loggins songs on your Ipod Stealth.  :aok

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