Learning from The Final Battle, and the next scenario

[Wildcat1]

But it takes a truly real man to muscle a bomber through the unfriendly skies. 

true, very true 

but lancs dont count 

[cactuskooler]

But it takes a truly real man to muscle a bomber through the unfriendly skies. 

He was talking about a 38...

[whiteman]

hogs are for little men, 38's are a real mans ride!

yawn

[Wildcat1]

yawn

of course you would think otherwise...

takes true skill to be a 38 ace, hogs are easy

[Spikes]

Hogs give me trouble in my J mostly, especially if they have an alt advantage. Can't turn with them, can't vert with them b/c of their magic hover flaps.

[Wildcat1]

Hogs give me trouble in my J mostly, especially if they have an alt advantage. Can't turn with them, can't vert with them b/c of their magic hover flaps.

my point exactly..

the hog and the spit are the most widely used among beginers IMO b/c their really easy to get kills in. that and the 190A-8

[Soulyss]

Hogs give me trouble in my J mostly, especially if they have an alt advantage. Can't turn with them, can't vert with them b/c of their magic hover flaps.

Even more of a handful if you're flying the 38G, really miss that WEP vs. a well flown F4U.

[skribetm]

the philippine campaign

japan
"For the invasion, the Third Fleet was augmented by two destroyer squadrons and a cruiser division of the Second Fleet, and the aircraft carrier Ryujo from the 1st Air Fleet. The Philippines Force consisted of an aircraft carrier, five heavy cruisers, five light cruisers, 29 destroyers, three seaplane tenders, 17 minecraft, and four torpedo boats.

Combined army and navy air strength to support the landings was 604 aircraft. The 11th Air Fleet consisted of the 21st and 23rd Air Flotillas, a combined strength of 146 bombers, 123 fighters, 24 seaplanes, and 15 reconnaissance planes. The Ryujo provided an additional 16 fighters and 18 torpedo planes, and the surface ships had 68 seaplanes for search and observation, totalling 412 naval aircraft. The army's 5th Air Group consisted of two fighter regiments, two light bomber regiments, and a heavy bomber regiment, totalling 192 aircraft: 81 bombers, 72 fighters, and 39 observation planes."

the planes used(?)
ki-43
a6m2
b5n2
d3a1


usa
"The USAFFE's aviation arm was the Far East Air Force (FEAF) of the U.S. Army Air Forces, commanded by Maj. Gen. Lewis H. Brereton. Activated as the Philippine Department Air Force on 20 September 1941,[19]  it was the largest USAAF combat air organization outside the United States. Its primary combat power in December 1941 consisted of 91 serviceable P-40 Warhawk fighters and 35 B-17 Flying Fortress bombers, with further modern aircraft en route. Tactically the FEAF was part of the Reserve Force, so that it fell under MacArthur's direct command."

p40 warhawks
b17



i guess the planesets are all early war, so no p-38, f4-u, ki-84, n1k-2j or even p-39?

[Enker]

Even though I would be in Hog heaven, with all the Hogs, I would prefer to fly that Ki-61 with wing tanks dry. Just something about it's nose-mounted cannons makes me happy inside.

skribetm, I think they are talking about the campaign to take back the Philippines from the Japanese.

[fudgums]

the philippine campaign

japan
"For the invasion, the Third Fleet was augmented by two destroyer squadrons and a cruiser division of the Second Fleet, and the aircraft carrier Ryujo from the 1st Air Fleet. The Philippines Force consisted of an aircraft carrier, five heavy cruisers, five light cruisers, 29 destroyers, three seaplane tenders, 17 minecraft, and four torpedo boats.

Combined army and navy air strength to support the landings was 604 aircraft. The 11th Air Fleet consisted of the 21st and 23rd Air Flotillas, a combined strength of 146 bombers, 123 fighters, 24 seaplanes, and 15 reconnaissance planes. The Ryujo provided an additional 16 fighters and 18 torpedo planes, and the surface ships had 68 seaplanes for search and observation, totalling 412 naval aircraft. The army's 5th Air Group consisted of two fighter regiments, two light bomber regiments, and a heavy bomber regiment, totalling 192 aircraft: 81 bombers, 72 fighters, and 39 observation planes."

the planes used(?)
ki-43
a6m2
b5n2
d3a1


usa
"The USAFFE's aviation arm was the Far East Air Force (FEAF) of the U.S. Army Air Forces, commanded by Maj. Gen. Lewis H. Brereton. Activated as the Philippine Department Air Force on 20 September 1941,[19]  it was the largest USAAF combat air organization outside the United States. Its primary combat power in December 1941 consisted of 91 serviceable P-40 Warhawk fighters and 35 B-17 Flying Fortress bombers, with further modern aircraft en route. Tactically the FEAF was part of the Reserve Force, so that it fell under MacArthur's direct command."

p40 warhawks
b17



i guess the planesets are all early war, so no p-38, f4-u, ki-84, n1k-2j or even p-39?

its a late 44 setup I believe.

[Wildcat1]

Even though I would be in Hog heaven, with all the Hogs, I would prefer to fly that Ki-61 with wing tanks dry. Just something about it's nose-mounted cannons makes me happy inside.

i think that watching the 4 .50's in the 38 climb up the back section of a N1K1 and completely tear it up is much more satisfying than watching a tater get an insta-kill

[Mato]

the Philippine campaign

japan
"... The army's 5th Air Group consisted of two fighter regiments..."

I believe Brooke was referring to the US 5th Air force.
This is when Japan was leaving the Philippines, not when they invaded.
I could be wrong though.

[TequilaChaser]

my point exactly..

the hog and the spit are the most widely used among beginers IMO b/c their really easy to get kills in. that and the 190A-8

 

I fall out on the floor laughing everytime I hear ( see ) someone post something on how easy they think the F4Us & Spits are....especially when they start bringing up the magical hover flaps.....

nothing magical about them, nothing "hovering" about them......... own up to why you have these feelings........

because you was not victorious in some fight and it hurt your ego 

welcome to AH WildCat1 unless you are an old AH player under a new name ( sorry I don't recall ever seeing you around in the Arenas ) , I see u are in the 367th, good group, 

outside of the F4U-4, the other F4Us are mediocre at best.......

nothing like a 109K4, or 190D9, or Tempest or La7 or P51D

and how dare you classify a F4U in the same category as a spitfire, for christ sake.......... maybe with a Spit 14.....but none of the others......


looking forward to the next Scenario

[Wildcat1]

welcome to AH WildCat1 unless you are an old AH player under a new name ( sorry I don't recall ever seeing you around in the Arenas ) , I see u are in the 367th, good group, 

and how dare you classify a F4U in the same category as a spitfire, for christ sake.......... maybe with a Spit 14.....but none of the others......

thanks, but ive been playing for about a year and a half now (only under a different ID, shifty95). yes, we are a great group, good bunch of guys 
ever since i joined the 367th, i did some research on the real squadron, and they flew p38's, so i started flying them more often, and i fell in love with them. 


and i love the hog, especially the a-hog, but i just think its a bit too easy for the experienced flyer 

[whiteman]

And to think i got bored with 38's and found the HOG's and Hellcat to be much more appealing to me.