MY ARENA CAP IDEA

[Traveler]

Are you seriously so clueless as to think people do not see the net effect of this? Or that I would in any way take this seriously?

HiTech

Why not consider my idea in it’s entirety, it would seem to address both sides of the problem.  As stated by Skuzzy the problem is with large arena populations have had a negative impact on the two week trials not signing up to become subscribers.  My suggestion would leave you with current capped environments just as is and one LW arena with no caps for those that want an uncapped arena.  You limit the non-subscribers to the capped arenas so that they are not exposed to the harsh environment that prevents them from becoming paid members.

Subscribed members would be able to play in any environment as they do now, including the one arena with no caps.   

What is the net effect, as I see it , your membership gets to play in the environment that they  enjoy playing in. The none paying members are limited to arenas that are part of the caped system until they become paying members.   Is that a bad thing?  Is that unreasonable?  I’ve read over and over in these threads that if someone has an idea to post.  So I offered.  Your response to my direct suggestion appears to be very hostile.  It was offered in good faith. Why so hostile?

[Traveler]

idk if this is a suck up moment to hitech but wouldnt this lead to NOBODY paying to play?

Everyone gets one two free trial then they must either subscribe to be in an online arena.  That's exactly how it is now.

[ImADot]

When I was a two-week trial, I spent some time in one of the LW arenas - the caps were active.  I found it to full of hordes, pickers and vulchers.  If there were no caps, there would have been many many more people in there and that bad taste would have been greatly magnified.  If I were limited to a "non-subscriber-only" arena, what would I have found?  Noobs with no clue, no experienced players to fight against and ask questions of, an equally bad taste that very likely would have turned me away completely?  I went to EW and MW and found a good mix of action and fun.  One of the great things I like is that non-paying trial players have full access to everything the game has to offer.  I started my subscription when my two weeks were up.

[Traveler]

When I was a two-week trial, I spent some time in one of the LW arenas - the caps were active.  I found it to full of hordes, pickers and vulchers.  If there were no caps, there would have been many many more people in there and that bad taste would have been greatly magnified.  If I were limited to a "non-subscriber-only" arena, what would I have found?  Noobs with no clue, no experienced players to fight against and ask questions of, an equally bad taste that very likely would have turned me away completely?  I went to EW and MW and found a good mix of action and fun.  One of the great things I like is that non-paying trial players have full access to everything the game has to offer.  I started my subscription when my two weeks were up.

I think you would find that there are many players that enjoy flying in the Capped Environment that population would include many long time experienced players.

Besides the place to train is the training arena.  What I am suggesting is the arena environment as is would remain as is.  That there would only be one additional arena and that would be a LW arena with no caps.  That arena with no caps would be unavailable to non subscribing members because as Skuzzy stated, HiTech has found that the large arena population with no caps was the cause of new players not signing up for a subscription.

[The Fugitive]

I think you would find that there are many players that enjoy flying in the Capped Environment that population would include many long time experienced players.

Besides the place to train is the training arena.  What I am suggesting is the arena environment as is would remain as is.  That there would only be one additional arena and that would be a LW arena with no caps.  That arena with no caps would be unavailable to non subscribing members because as Skuzzy stated, HiTech has found that the large arena population with no caps was the cause of new players not signing up for a subscription.

It also caused a large number of subscribers (read oldtimers) to cancel their subscriptions. Face it, your never going to see a single, uncapped arena ever again, except for TT.

[Traveler]

It also caused a large number of subscribers (read oldtimers) to cancel their subscriptions. Face it, your never going to see a single, uncapped arena ever again, except for TT.

Why can't there be both?  The caped arenas as we now have with the dynamic cap and one arena uncaped and let the player community play where they want.  The players that want to be in the CAPed environment can play there.  I'm not asking for the Caped Arena system to be removed.  I'm asking for a return of the MA with no capes.
Why can't the subscribers play in the environment that they want.  When I joined AH the MA was uncapped, had the arena been caped I doubt that I would have become a subscriber.  I play on a Squad and pay to play on a squad in AH.

[Knite]

Why can't there be both?  The caped arenas as we now have with the dynamic cap and one arena uncaped and let the player community play where they want.  The players that want to be in the CAPed environment can play there.  I'm not asking for the Caped Arena system to be removed.  I'm asking for a return of the MA with no capes.
Why can't the subscribers play in the environment that they want.  When I joined AH the MA was uncapped, had the arena been caped I doubt that I would have become a subscriber.  I play on a Squad and pay to play on a squad in AH.

The point is, that by human nature, most players would join that uncapped arena, hardly anyone would join the 2 capped arenas, and we'd be back to the same problem that caused the cap to be put on in the first place.

[hitech]

To put it very bluntly.

Why can't the subscribers play in the environment that they want.

Because you pay me to fly in the environment I provide. And I provide the environment that the greatest number of players want, not what you want.

HiTech

[Traveler]

To put it very bluntly.


Because you pay me to fly in the environment I provide. And I provide the environment that the greatest number of players want, not what you want.

HiTech

I wasn't aware that High Tech Creations has ever asked me which enviornment I want.    Did they take a poll?

[vonKrimm]

I wasn't aware that High Tech Creations has ever asked me which enviornment I want.    Did they take a poll?

yes, when you took HTC's two week free trial of AH and then decided to become a paying subscriber.

[Traveler]

The point is, that by human nature, most players would join that uncapped arena, hardly anyone would join the 2 capped arenas, and we'd be back to the same problem that caused the cap to be put on in the first place.

The problem as discribed by Skuzzy was that HiTech discoverd that the two week trial members were not subscribing.  That's why in my suggestion I offered that two week subscribers only be allowed in the capped arenas.  if  the majority of subscribers want the capped environment then they would play in the capped arena, not the uncapped one.

[Traveler]

yes, when you took HTC's two week free trial of AH and then decided to become a paying subscriber.

when I did the two week free trial of AH there were no capped it was just one MA.

[ImADot]

Wow.  Can't believe you're still beating this dead horse expecting it to go any further.  Sounds like your wish has been heard and dismissed.  Time to let it die - unless you enjoy poking bears with sticks.

[321BAR]

i have this baad feeling about this thread...    IN maybe?

[Traveler]

Wow.  Can't believe you're still beating this dead horse expecting it to go any further.  Sounds like your wish has been heard and dismissed.  Time to let it die - unless you enjoy poking bears with sticks.

Not poking bears, just responding to comments.  Nothing wrong with an exchange of information and ideas.  No need for anyone to get upset or hostile.