Timid

[321BAR]

Ok... I was just reading a wishlist thread about the name in lights in game and was reading about timidness. Time to see what people consider "timid" and what isn't. Like if you're in a 262 could a person NOT be "timid"? or if you're in a zero could you actually fly away from a fight and be able to be timid? Opinions and light discussions only please ... im tired of these stupid thread locking name maimer arguments back and forth.

[captain1ma]

you might be considered timid if:

you don't fight until someone dies, but rather try to RTB!

you extend more then 3k

you extend and wont turn around until your chaser turns around and heads the other way(this sometimes lasting a full sector)

you BNZ from a 2k perch or higher

[TW9]

i like the fight i had yesterday. i spotted an noe crossing the water and was trailing looking for goons in a spit9. A spit16 and ponyd broke off to engage me. I finally got the 16 but the ponyd would run every time it got reversed it til about 1.5-2k out then turn back for a ho. Just didn't really understand the concept. Like if you're afraid to get shot down why turn back to go ho?   .. After about 5mins of trying to turn this into an alt advantage for me the pony proved much more superior than the spit9 as it should and neutralized any advantage i gained from avoiding his ho and run tactics. Eventually, i gave in and just ho'd him. We both died. *Shrug*

[Lusche]

I am.

[Saxman]

A P-51 picking 10-15k targets from a 25k perch, who runs away home the instant a con appears at co-alt.

[Ghosth]

To those I will add:

You only engage if there are more friendly's than enemy's (flying in a horde)
You only engage if you have an advantage, speed, alt, position, firepower.

you might be considered timid if:

you don't fight until someone dies, but rather try to RTB!

you extend more then 3k

you extend and wont turn around until your chaser turns around and heads the other way(this sometimes lasting a full sector)

you BNZ from a 2k perch or higher

[321BAR]

True. But timidness=kills usually? therefore would it not be better to be timid in fights and land with a certain number of kills or to be agressive and get many kills in as little time as possible? -Btw this is purely for discussion only, i already know where i stand on the subject love flying a 262 rolling scissors with 2 enemy at low alt in those roadrunners. even better if i replace the 262 with a a6m2

[Oldman731]

True. But timidness=kills usually? therefore would it not be better to be timid in fights and land with a certain number of kills or to be agressive and get many kills in as little time as possible?

If your goal is to amass as many kills as possible, timid flying will help you do that.  No question about it.

- oldman

[uptown]

It never fails to amuse me how when the word "timid" pops up, the first thing out of everyones mouth is P51

9 times out of 10 these are the same guys that fly spits, F4Us, hurricanes etc. I have film, after film, after film of running 109s,190s,262s,Tempests,LA7s and Typhoons doing the same thing!

For the guys that don't fly P51s, let me clue you in on something. The P51 is not that great of a plane! It's takes alot of seat time to be able to beat a enemy aircraft at its own game. So the mustang pilot better know a thing or two before he tries to beat a 109 or 38 in the vertical, or a spitfire and hurricane in a turn fight. And the F4Us ....easy mode compared to P51s.

[WMLute]

It is quite rare in a 1 on 1 for me to run from a fight. 
(it has happened of course, typically when I am low ammo/fuel or damaged)

What many players loose sight of is they are not running from you, but the 1-5 country mates you have near by.

I generally have no fear of a single con no matter the advantage it has on me I figure I will win the fight.
(in my head anyway)

But that 2nd, 3rd, 4th (etc) con will keep me from turning and fighting.

[FLS]

I would say you're timid if you let other people tell you how you should fly. 

[uptown]

I would say you're timid if you let other people tell you how you should fly.  

Exactly. Here's an example: I'm in a P51 cherry picking a LA7, and 2 spits over their field. Along comes a F4UA co-alt. What do I do? I fight the F4U, but it takes some time to get the angles on him for the kill, by this time the 3 cons on the deck have climbed to me and now it's 3vs1 against a enemy that can out turn me and 1 that can out run me.

Or I could see the co alt F4U and dive to the deck into 3 waiting cons that will stay in their ack while the F4U BnZs me. I found If you want to survive it's best not to be stupid and fly the game of the enemy.

[TequilaChaser]

I would say you're timid if you let other people tell you how you should fly. 

Wow you made some new Sig material, FLS    

[321BAR]

Wow you made some new Sig material, FLS    

thats being quoted for my sig

[uptown]

To those I will add:

You only engage if there are more friendly's than enemy's (flying in a horde)
You only engage if you have an advantage, speed, alt, position, firepower.

So basically you're saying a good untimid pilot only engages when outnumbered and has no advantage at all. Maybe you could post some training films on how to come out of that alive?