New 76mm Sherman M4a3

[stephen]

Im glad to see more versions of the M4 being introduced as it made a significant impact, (at-least to the men that crew'd it).
However..., I worry that the VC Firefly will remain at its current perk price, and continue to un-balance gameplay.

I sincerly hope that this move to earlier versions of the M4 is being made in order to raise the Fireflys perk price, by offering an up-gunned Sherman that will fill the void bettween the A3 75mm, and the 76mm Firefly, and still keep the M4 competitive against the MKIV Panzers.

I think these additions (along with a more expensive Firefly) will definatly offset the numerical supperiority of the Firefly when factoring in perk price, and effectivness.

Most countrys had a super tank that had a VERY effective gun, and VERY good armor..., all of which where in service by the end of the war. (Tiger, M-26, and the Stalin tank come to mind)
The VC Firefly fits somwhere bettween these, and actual tank destroyers HISTORICALY..., yet its cheap availability assures that it will be seen in greater numbers in the MA, and it has unbalnced the game as mentiond before.
More versions of tanks, and correct assignment of perk price will level the field once again..., and im truly egstatic when I think what this means for the future of the ground game if implemented correctly.
You guys are drawing a fine line; and though it takes time to empliment, I realise that HT and the crew are doing thier best to further the game, and level the playing field.

Thank you for trying to bring some semblance of fairness to the ground game HT and crew... <S>  

[1carbine]

Now all we need is the Gloster Meteor MkIII. To fill the gap between the tempest and the Me262 in the air game. 

[stephen]

Im sorry, I just realised that perhaps instead of raising the Firefly's perk cost, the Tiger could be lowerd in cost...

The heavier armor doesnt seem to merit the extravagant perk price that the Tiger currently requires.
MAN this is a good move! 

[Karnak]

Raising the Firefly's perk cost would be preferable.  Leave the T-34/85 as the cheap perk tank.  You don't want to make Tigers and Fireflys so cheap as to make them overly common.


Also, you forgot to mention the British Centurion.

[stephen]

It appears that the Centurion was un-available in ww2, (which is a damn shame considering its service history).
Its most un-fortunate in that the best British tank of the war appears to be the Sherman itself, up-gunned to a 17 pounder with a 90% twist.

I would love to see the cruiser tanks added, but im afraid that they wouldnt be truly competitive. 

[Karnak]

So it was.  For some reason I remembered a few getting in at the very end, but it seems not.

[Stryker]

believe you were thinking of the british comet tank.. it came in at late 44 or 45 i think, very nice tank

[Angus]

The Comet would have a nice use in AH, - fast bugger with a good punch....

[ReDeViL2]

Im sorry, I just realised that perhaps instead of raising the Firefly's perk cost, the Tiger could be lowerd in cost...

The heavier armor doesnt seem to merit the extravagant perk price that the Tiger currently requires.
MAN this is a good move! 

Agreed, especially seeing that the Tiger can seemingly be killed by an M8 with 2-3 well placed shots...I wonder how many Tiger vs M8 Greyhound Battles in WW2 were documented?  And Ill bet those did not end well for those poor saps rollin those Greyhounds.  I must say one thing, I am very impressed Waffle...the M4 new M4 is looking good and I especially like the Rocket Tube Attachment.  Will this be another Package like the ability to add Gondies to certain AC or will it be a Perk thing???  Either way, way to go and keep em coming!

[RTHolmes]

I worry that the VC Firefly will remain at its current perk price, and continue to un-balance gameplay.

  firefly usage (kills+deaths) is only 15%, 3rd after panz at 34% and wirb at 17%. hardly unbalancing. K/D doesnt look excessive either, esp considering its the only dedicated tank destroyer we have.

[Wreked]

Agreed, especially seeing that the Tiger can seemingly be killed by an M8 with 2-3 well placed shots...I wonder how many Tiger vs M8 Greyhound Battles in WW2 were documented?  And Ill bet those did not end well for those poor saps rollin those Greyhounds.............

I seem to remember a doc somewhere stating after D-Day it averaged about 3 dead Shermans to every Tiger knocked out.

Given the huge availablity of replacement Shermans it worked out pretty good in the end..................

............unless of course you were a Sherman driver!!

...cheers eh!

[Wayout]

I seem to remember a doc somewhere stating after D-Day it averaged about 3 dead Shermans to every Tiger knocked out.

Given the huge availablity of replacement Shermans it worked out pretty good in the end..................

............unless of course you were a Sherman driver!!

...cheers eh!

 I remember reading a book by a Panzer Commander (I don't remember the name) who server on both the Eastern and Western fronts.  He said that one Tiger was equal to five T-34s.  About the Sherman he said that one Tiger was equal to four Shermans but it seemed like there were always five.
  

[E25280]

Im sorry, I just realised that perhaps instead of raising the Firefly's perk cost, the Tiger could be lowerd in cost...

The Tiger's perk cost was lowered about 40% when the Firefly was introduced.

Personally I think all the GV perk costs should go up.  A 5 perk cost is so negligible as to be meaningless.  Restore the Tiger's original perk cost and raise the Firefly's to about 20 would be my suggestion (T-34/85 at about 10-15).

[RTHolmes]

some charts...

sry, forgot to credit snailguy for the charts

[Rino]

     Wonder what the perk would be on THIS guy