New 76mm Sherman M4a3

[stephen]

Israel found a way to do it... why not?
lol

[jay]

ANYTHING can be killed by ANYTHING with enough bullets   

 

Agreed, especially seeing that the Tiger can seemingly be killed by an M8 with 2-3 well placed shots...I wonder how many Tiger vs M8 Greyhound Battles in WW2 were documented?  And Ill bet those did not end well for those poor saps rollin those Greyhounds.  I must say one thing, I am very impressed Waffle...the M4 new M4 is looking good and I especially like the Rocket Tube Attachment.  Will this be another Package like the ability to add Gondies to certain AC or will it be a Perk thing???  Either way, way to go and keep em coming!

and nothing probley (if thats the 75MM version) cause its as deadly as the T34/76 in game now

     Wonder what the perk would be on THIS guy 

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[Rino]

Israel found a way to do it... why not?
lol

     Heck, the M-51 Sherman carries a 105mm

[BigKev03]

The M4A3 (76mm) sherman we will soon get will be a nice fit between the panzer and the firefly/tiger.  The 76mm gun is a good gun and will be able to defeat all tanks except the tiger (given it can penetrate the tiger at the right range and direction).  The armor is decent.  What makes it attractive to me is that like another poster stated on another board is that it will change some of the tactics we use in the GV world of HTC.  Many times I take a GV out just to test a new tactic.  Sometimes it works sometimes I die.  It will take a few days or so to figure the tank out once we get it.  I think it will be a nice fit.  I wonder though if it will have a perk along the likes of the T34/85? 

BigKev

[Guppy35]

I remember reading a book by a Panzer Commander (I don't remember the name) who server on both the Eastern and Western fronts.  He said that one Tiger was equal to five T-34s.  About the Sherman he said that one Tiger was equal to four Shermans but it seemed like there were always five.
  

Kinda depends on what you read I guess

"On 18th September 1944 Panthers of the 111th Panzer Brigade began the attack, but in two days of tough fighting they lost 43 tanks for only 5 Shermans and 3 M10 Tank Destroyers."  This was Creighton Abrams and his boys, part of the 4th Armored.  Apparently tactics and teamwork worked to even things out.

[SDGhalo]

if the  sherman M4A3 75 and 76 mm are coming in and if there making a rocket version they should make a DD version

[speak]

The tiger had a high amount of fear it put into the minds of anyone who came across them.  I had read a book about a battle on the eastern front, in which there were 3 tigers against the t34s.   It was recorded the tigers had scored an impressive 54 victories before running out of ammunition and having to withdrawl.  The only problem was the t34 would not stop coming, there were just too many.  In AH2 the tiger would more than likely be killed by the t34 a lot sooner.  I have been killed while in a tiger from over 3200m away with just one shot from a t34;  well placed shot or not, unless i had my hatch opened and the shell came right in, this would never happen at those distances in the war.  Tiger has definitely been neutered in this game.

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[Karnak]

The tiger had a high amount of fear it put into the minds of anyone who came across them.  I had read a book about a battle on the eastern front, in which there were 3 tigers against the t34s.   It was recorded the tigers had scored an impressive 54 victories before running out of ammunition and having to withdrawl.  The only problem was the t34 would not stop coming, there were just too many.  In AH2 the tiger would more than likely be killed by the t34 a lot sooner.  I have been killed while in a tiger from over 3200m away with just one shot from a t34;  well placed shot or not, unless i had my hatch opened and the shell came right in, this would never happen at those distances in the war.  Tiger has definitely been neutered in this game.

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You discount tactics.  Russian tactics, particularly early in the war, sucked really badly.

[speak]

I would agree the Russian tactics were poor, this doen't take into fact the tigers were over 2000m away knocking these tanks out.  The t34 had no other option than to charge the tigers.  All I am saying is that this game has really taken away the tiger's intimidation.  For the amount it is perked in comparison to the Firefly, its a waste of points and time. 

[Kenne]

     Wonder what the perk would be on THIS guy 

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isnt that the m36?

[Clone155]

I told a friend about the 75mm and 76mm Shermans we are getting and came across a question. He said "What? It's only 1mm, that is not much difference." So what are the differences between these two?

[Kenne]

I told a friend about the 75mm and 76mm Shermans we are getting and came across a question. He said "What? It's only 1mm, that is not much difference." So what are the differences between these two?

the M3 75 mm gun used in the A3 has a case length of 350mm
the 17pdr gun used in the Firefly was
76.2x583mm

[E25280]

I told a friend about the 75mm and 76mm Shermans we are getting and came across a question. He said "What? It's only 1mm, that is not much difference." So what are the differences between these two?

In game terms -- about an inch penetration at 1000 yards.

[Kenne]

In game terms -- about an inch penetration at 1000 yards.

in game terms, what thickness of armor the 76mm can penetrate at 1000m, the 75 can pierce at 500m.

[humble]

The tiger was primarily a defensive weapon, on those relatively rare occasions it was deployed in an offensive capacity it didn't do all that well. In fact if you go all the way back to the N. Africa and early Russian campaigns German losses vs allied tanks were equally high. Defensively the Germans had the tremendous advantage of superior AT guns and tactics. US TD elements of all varieties did very well vs German armor...