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Offline 321BAR

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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #75 on: April 27, 2010, 01:18:04 PM »
AHHH!!! I remember!!!! The M3 stuart!!!!



sorry for the mix up there. thought the grant was the stuart
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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #76 on: April 27, 2010, 02:33:54 PM »
AHHH!!! I remember!!!! The M3 stuart!!!!

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sorry for the mix up there. thought the grant was the stuart

It's all those darn Civil War Generals.

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FWIW: M3 Lee = M3 Grant.

Same tank.  British called it Grant.



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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #77 on: April 27, 2010, 02:41:39 PM »
I would like to correct the use of a commonly used phrase.

"The customer is always right".

Now, this phrase pertains to choices a customer may make.  For example.  If you walk into any upper scale clothing store, the choice of your purchase is based on your opinion and because all the clothing is high quality, there is no wrong decision.  Thus, this makes "the customer always right".  Bottomline is when the customer is in a position of making a choice and that choice will never be a bad one, "the customer is always right".

Conversely, if you walk into that fine retail establishment and tell them how to run their business and complain about the clothing they carry, there is a good chance they will ask you to leave.  In this case, "the customer is a nuisance".

My point being, if you are going to use the above phrase, please use it in the context it was meant to be used.


Modeling something does not slow down the efforts to correct any potential issues in the game.  Modeling and coding are two separate processes.  They do cross paths, but for the most part they are autonomous processes, once everyone is on board with how things are done.


to add to this  you are only a customer after you have paid for the goods recived . seeing how we pay after  the month is up we are never really  a customer.  So HTC could screw us over as much as he wanted.   

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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #78 on: April 27, 2010, 02:42:22 PM »
It's all those darn Civil War Generals.

 :aok

FWIW: M3 Lee = M3 Grant.

Same tank.  British called it Grant.



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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #79 on: April 27, 2010, 03:00:15 PM »
From the unfortunate first post in this thread.
"The gun performance is inferior to current tank guns in use."

That is not true, and the ways that its not true were fundamental to why the 75mm Sherman hung around  so long.
It its intended purpose, HE fire, it was superior to the pak40 and the 17 lbr.  Against armour, it is certainly inferior. But with the rockets on the roof(nice addition) and the 76mm to support it, it fills a good niche in this game.

As to who will use it. People who relish in over achieving.
Every other function that the tank has in this game except fighting other tanks, this will be the best tank in the game.
Obviously a big constraint. But a great reason to include it in my mind.
I thought when they where first talking about adding tanks to the game the stable should have been.
Panzer IVh, T34 85, Sherman 75.
They would support each other very well.

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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #80 on: April 27, 2010, 03:32:28 PM »
Yes Yes the M3A1 i remeber now it was in a WW2 national museum very competetive when in the right hands'.(Or well thats what i think)

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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #81 on: April 27, 2010, 04:58:50 PM »
I take T-3476's out most of the time..., nothing sais ,"I kicked your butt!" like killing a panzer with your week, underachieving T34.
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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #82 on: April 27, 2010, 05:08:05 PM »
I take T-3476's out most of the time..., nothing sais ,"I kicked your butt!" like killing a panzer with your week, underachieving T34.

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so your the one that keeps turreting my PkW4...
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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #83 on: April 27, 2010, 05:41:17 PM »
I would like to correct the use of a commonly used phrase.

"The customer is always right".

Now, this phrase pertains to choices a customer may make.  For example.  If you walk into any upper scale clothing store, the choice of your purchase is based on your opinion and because all the clothing is high quality, there is no wrong decision.  Thus, this makes "the customer always right".  Bottomline is when the customer is in a position of making a choice and that choice will never be a bad one, "the customer is always right".

Conversely, if you walk into that fine retail establishment and tell them how to run their business and complain about the clothing they carry, there is a good chance they will ask you to leave.  In this case, "the customer is a nuisance".

My point being, if you are going to use the above phrase, please use it in the context it was meant to be used.


Modeling something does not slow down the efforts to correct any potential issues in the game.  Modeling and coding are two separate processes.  They do cross paths, but for the most part they are autonomous processes, once everyone is on board with how things are done.

"the skuzz is always right"  :aok

idk why this guy doesnt want the M4, i myself am very excited  :x
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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2010, 05:59:21 PM »
well that is 'realism' isnt it.
I meanthe 51 didnt start out as a 6 gun merlin machine..yes?



It started as a 4 hispano Allison machine. Are you saying that is inferior?

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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #85 on: April 27, 2010, 06:17:49 PM »
It started as a 4 hispano Allison machine. Are you saying that is inferior?
heh...the 4 hispano allison was inferior no matter what people think
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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #86 on: April 27, 2010, 06:18:24 PM »
It started as a 4 hispano Allison machine. Are you saying that is inferior?

actually the mustang started out with the same weapons package as the p40B.
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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #87 on: April 27, 2010, 06:43:29 PM »
actually the mustang started out with the same weapons package as the p40B.

no, it didnt. and, they're talkin about engines, not guns
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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2010, 06:50:59 PM »
pretty sure you got to be member of the squad forum to see that mac.

to explain the ... ahem ... hijack, we have an ongoing squad EW Challenge, best run in a EW fighter in LW. great fun if you (literally) want a change of pace. been going for a coupla years and noone has bothered upping a A6M2 yet. just 2 kills to get on the board but still noone wants to up that crate :lol

As a side note the record so far is 12 in a 202 [in late war arena] (since my A-20 doesn't count :headscratch:) {was 1 hop no rearms}[not me BTW], so anyone who thinks the EWA birds aren't deadly hasn't been around long enough....

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Re: Why do we need the 75mm Sherman? (rant)
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2010, 07:51:20 PM »
no, it didnt. and, they're talkin about engines, not guns

wrong again. (u guys must run in packs)

Look at Pongo's reply with my quote.
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