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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #60 on: May 03, 2010, 12:42:50 PM »
355mph top speed at best altitude says it will still be easy to catch.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #61 on: May 03, 2010, 01:03:34 PM »
 :aok  I've been waiting for the A-26 since I left AW to come here in 2001.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #62 on: May 03, 2010, 01:11:49 PM »
So what would be the balancing plane that would be added with it? Doesn't seem like anyone has taken that into consideration. And another perked bomber is really needed...ok if you say so.
Who mentioned a balancing plane?  Since when has that been a requirement - I don't exactly see the Me-262 having a balancing plane, or the 163 or the 234 for that matter.

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News flash...there are 8 U.S./British bombers capable of carrying enough ord to drop 2 or more hangars in 1 pass...and one of them is a highly capable dive bomber...they are all well armed. The A-26 has no better armament than the A-20.

What is this mysterious dive bomber you speak of?  Short of the A-26, I really can't think of any 2-hangar 1-pass dive bombers...

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There are 11 highly capable U.S./British fast attack fighter/bombers...all of which carry enough ord to drop at least one hangar and are more than capable of fighting their way in and out.

None of which are capable of dropping two hangars in one dive...

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Compare that to what is currently available for all of the other countries combined...when coming up with some new aircraft that would be "cool to fly"...try getting some priorities that include making AH something besides Fly U.S.A.

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #63 on: May 03, 2010, 01:28:48 PM »
You're still forgetting the vote...
Change what you put up to vote on and the vote will change.

What is this mysterious dive bomber you speak of?  Short of the A-26, I really can't think of any 2-hangar 1-pass dive bombers...

None of which are capable of dropping two hangars in one dive...
Was mistakenly thinking of another airplane...forget that one.

Why is there a need for a single aircraft to drop 2 hangars in one pass...still trying to win de warz with a single plane?



Not picking on you but...I know there are a lot more useful aircraft that could be added way before the A-26.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #64 on: May 03, 2010, 01:37:17 PM »
Yossarian, the vote is 100% irrelevant now.  It was a vote to decide the next, single aircraft added, not to decide the order of the next 10 aircraft added.  It had no relevance beyond the B-25 and, due only to how insanely close the vote was, P-39.  Forget about it, or should we start referring to the vote between the SBD/D3A or D4Y/SB2C to justify asking for the latter two?
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #65 on: May 03, 2010, 01:44:22 PM »
While there's no doubt the A26 is an interesting aircraft and it's inclusion would allow HTC a chance to use the newly increased ordnance loadout points,I dont see it being a priority at this point.

 There's been many good suggestions made already,the TU2 being 1 that I think warrants inclusion,I personally would like to see the planeset more evened out. We could use many Japanese planes,some Italian bombers and even some of the smaller but just as important countries,maybe Romania and France deserve to have a plane representative.


  I'm not saying "dont add the A26" as I flew it many times in another sim I'm just saying is now the time for this or would the resources be better spent in other areas.

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2010, 02:46:50 PM »
Beaufighter has to get here first! :)
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #67 on: May 03, 2010, 08:24:47 PM »
I'd love to see the A-26 but can think of 5 other planes...

Beaufighter
Tu-2
SB2C
B7A
D4Y

All would fill needs and be very competitive in the LWA (IMO).  

What I would love to see is the 4 x 20mm option for the A-20. It was factory standard production and the USSR operated more A-20's then every other user combined and many were converted back to the 4 x 20mm loadout...

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #68 on: May 03, 2010, 08:44:16 PM »
I'd love to see the A-26 but can think of 5 other planes...

Beaufighter
Tu-2
SB2C
B7A
D4Y

All would fill needs and be very competitive in the LWA (IMO).  

What I would love to see is the 4 x 20mm option for the A-20. It was factory standard production and the USSR operated more A-20's then every other user combined and many were converted back to the 4 x 20mm loadout...

Yep, the 4x 20mm option would fit nicely with the Soviet skin we have for the A-20.

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2010, 09:32:00 PM »
The A-26 represents the best we had to offer in medium bombers, and it served in numbers.
There is NO reason this bomber shouldn't be added, outside of a few menial objections.

If you can't come out on top of a PERKED medium bomber in this sim, perhaps you shouldn't be here?...
It's fear'd because it is effective, NOT uber. Time the ground pounders had somthing to be excited about.

Bring the Royal A-26 to the game, it deserves to be here..., not many planes survive 3 wars to be so celebrated, that alone should be reason enough to intr a HISTORICALY accurate aircraft that was built in numbers.

No other ww2 aircraft nears the service length (unless you mention cargo aircraft) , or effectivness. The time may have finaly come... :salute
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2010, 09:34:12 PM »
I'd love to see the A-26 but can think of 5 other planes...

Beaufighter
Tu-2
SB2C
B7A
D4Y

All would fill needs and be very competitive in the LWA (IMO).  

What I would love to see is the 4 x 20mm option for the A-20. It was factory standard production and the USSR operated more A-20's then every other user combined and many were converted back to the 4 x 20mm loadout...
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2010, 10:22:41 AM »
The question isn't does it deserve to "be here" of course it does. The two key aspects are what else is missing in the plane set and does the a-26 have alternatives already in place. The answer is simple, while the A-26 will be a great addition the A-20 can do everything the A-26 can almost as well. I'd love to have it since I'm an A-20 junkie already. However, a lot of other planes offer similar capability role wise and fill serious gaps in the plane set. Giving the A-20 the 4 x 20mm option would be an excellent alternative. Personally the G.55, Beaufighter, Tu-2 and lagg-3 all need to be in game. The other great addition would be the hawk75...

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2010, 05:27:22 PM »
Other planes offer the same alternatives as the ones u say "we need", so why should they be released before the a26? Its a never ending story, which one is "needed" but won't be used as much or one that will be used (a26) but is not "needed".



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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2010, 05:42:23 PM »
Even funnier  :rofl

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2010, 07:04:55 PM »
Other planes offer the same alternatives as the ones u say "we need", so why should they be released before the a26? Its a never ending story, which one is "needed" but won't be used as much or one that will be used (a26) but is not "needed".



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I'm trying to balance use in the MA's with FSO/Scenario potential. While the A-26 has the advantage of an extra 2,000 lbs of ords and some additional speed and structural strength its also got heavier wing-loading and a slower rate of climb compared to the A-20. Realistically the A-26 isn't "needed" anymore then the 410 is since both have functional equivalents. Personally I'd love to see the A-26 but then I'm one of a handful (10-20?) that really fly the A-20 significantly as a % of total sorties. Adding the A-26 won't really change all that much IMO compared to the impact some others will have for FSO/Scenarios. In the MA the Tu-2 and Beau will develop strong cult followings just like the IL-2 and A-20 have...

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