ME-262

[Banshi]

    For about the third time now I watched a ME-262 hang in a  fight for 20+ minutes , this simply is not any where near realistic. At best they should have enough fuel to get to altitude go less than a sector make a couple of passes and be on fumes or gliding back to base. Not buzzing an area for half an hour then flying two sectors away to land.

[Lusche]

   For about the third time now I watched a ME-262 hang in a  fight for 20+ minutes , this simply is not any where near realistic. At best they should have enough fuel to get to altitude go less than a sector make a couple of passes and be on fumes or gliding back to base. Not buzzing an area for half an hour then flying two sectors away to land.

Now you can surely provide us with some DATA about real life fuel consumption & endurance?

I mean... less than a sector means less than 25 miles... even when accoutning for FB 2.0 that would only mean less than 50 miles combat range in RL...

[Karnak]

Are you certain you are not mixing the jet powered Me262 up with the rocket powered Me163?  Remember, a sector is only 25 miles, so even accounting for fuel burn rate you are suggesting the Me262 had a range of about 150 miles....

[BillyD]

I've read somewhere Combat endurance for a series 262 was somewhere between 60 and 90 minutes with an estimated range of approx. 650 miles.

[LLogann]

I've had no problem flying for an hour in a 262 at the burnrate of x2.0.

Have you flown the 262? 

[Wolfala]

If you fly at 7000 rpm and only use high throttle when
u really need it, I've had missions over 70 minutes

[Glasses]

If you fly at 7000 rpm and only use high throttle when
u really need it, I've had missions over 70 minutes

The higher you go the more efficient and faster your cruise speed will be. So you could get relatively fast to the fight compared to most piston engined fighters.

I've had fighter when I have one engine knocked out and I'm flying home at 20k with 5krpm single engine and flew 200miles back.

[ACE]

I believe people cut there throttle.

[Delirium]

When I do 262 sorties, I take off and get the plane up 300 ias before I start to do any climbing. Provided I have about 25 miles before the fight, I'll nose up to a RoC of 2.5 or so and throttle back to 7000 rpms. Once I get to about 10k, I'll get my speed up to 350 tas and throttle back to 6500 rpms until I arrive at the fight.

It may not be the most efficient, but it works for me.

[Banshi]

Did a little test and found the 262 went just as far as a p51 given both aircraft have a 25% fuel load flying in a straight line at 10000 ft....................that is just not realistic since the 262 real world range is half that of the mustang. It should be closer to a Spitfire especially given that loss of an engine was common due to mechanical and pilot error and the plane could only barely fly on one and only then with enough alt and speed already built up.

[Karnak]

I have several combat descriptions in which a Mosquito PR.Mk XVI came under attack by one or more Me262s.  The engagements typically last 30-45 minutes.

[Krusty]

Did a little test and found the 262 went just as far as a p51 given both aircraft have a 25% fuel load flying in a straight line at 10000 ft....................that is just not realistic since the 262 real world range is half that of the mustang. It should be closer to a Spitfire especially given that loss of an engine was common due to mechanical and pilot error and the plane could only barely fly on one and only then with enough alt and speed already built up.

Your logic is flawed..

What was the FLIGHT TIME for each test?

Why, you may ask, does that matter? Well the 262 covered the same distance because it was doing 500mph, but lasted less time. It just covered more ground in the time it had.

P.S. I think you're overly pessimistic about historic capabilities of the 262. Had it been used as an interceptor when first introduced instead of a bomber, instead of being held back, it would have changed the war.

[LLogann]

Somebody has been hanging out on wiki a little too much. 

[Glasses]

Your logic is flawed..

What was the FLIGHT TIME for each test?

Why, you may ask, does that matter? Well the 262 covered the same distance because it was doing 500mph, but lasted less time. It just covered more ground in the time it had.

P.S. I think you're overly pessimistic about historic capabilities of the 262. Had it been used as an interceptor when first introduced instead of a bomber, instead of being held back, it would have changed the war.

That and the early engines broke down before their 50 projected hours before an overhaul. Oh and the constant bombing and accessibility to advanced alloys .

[ACE]

Somebody has been hanging out on wiki a little too much. 

lol