A pony took out my turret?

[Bronk]

In AH? Nope, never.

Anyways, I've heard that WWII armies which had them won all the battles 


Spall by what? 50 cal AP rounds? LMAO

If a hole is punched through there will be spall.

[2bighorn]

If a hole is punched through there will be spall.

There can be spall without hole. And hall can be punched without spall at all. Blah, blah... We could argue forever.

Destruction and lethality of spalling achievable with high velocity specialized projectiles is not the same as that of, lets say, 50 cal bmg, AP or not.
Besides that, currently we don't have any tank in game which is seriously vulnerable to small caliber weapons.

And before we continue, I'd really like to see any evidence (records, etc) of WWII tank crews being disabled/killed by small caliber AT weapons on regular basis(especially trough spalling). Just didn't happen that often. At least not often enough to worry about in game modeling...

[whipster22]

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[E25280]

And before we continue, I'd really like to see any evidence (records, etc) of WWII tank crews being disabled/killed by small caliber AT weapons on regular basis(especially trough spalling). Just didn't happen that often. At least not often enough to worry about in game modeling...

This link is one source describing spalling that I knew of off the top of my head.  About 4 paragraphs from the bottom, although it is a good read, so I suggest reading from the top.   

I want also to add that the Sherman's armor was tough. There were cases on our T-34 when a round struck and did not penetrate. But the crew was wounded because pieces of armor flew off the inside wall and struck the crewmen in the hands and eyes. This never happened on the Sherman.

[2bighorn]

This link is one source describing spalling that I knew of off the top of my head.  About 4 paragraphs from the bottom, although it is a good read, so I suggest reading from the top.   

If you don't bother to read, why bother to answer?

And before we continue, I'd really like to see any evidence (records, etc) of WWII tank crews being disabled/killed by small caliber AT weapons on regular basis(especially trough spalling). Just didn't happen that often. At least not often enough to worry about in game modeling...