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Offline Krusty

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Legacy IDE drives
« on: May 18, 2010, 06:26:24 PM »
With the semi-recent supremacy of Sata HDD, I was noticing lately that there still aren't so many CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, or CD/DVD burners in Sata, as compared to how many are still in IDE.

Is this reliance on IDE much of an issue? Theoretically Sata is faster, but practically speaking when reading and writing with an optical drive is there any benefit to Sata (which costs more) as compared to the average IDE drives?

Just curious. I was pondering a PC that had no IDE at all.

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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 06:59:03 PM »
I think it may be a disc limitation, can only spin them so fast before they have a habit of shattering. That aside, SATA still routes a lot easier then IDE IMO and that is usually more then reason enough to throw down the extra 10 bucks.
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 07:17:06 PM »
Optical devices are already a dead end product but much like floppy drives we will probably have them around for at least another five years. I believe more and more companies will be going to distribution streams like Steam. Its much easier to make profit when you dont have the added cost of distributing hard copies dont you think?
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2010, 08:38:00 PM »
All I lack to going IDE free is a new dvd burner.  I hate that damn IDE cable, such a pita to work around.  I've been thinking about that for the last few months.  It can't help but improve airflow right?
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 09:39:14 PM »
If you look real close at the specs you will find the SATA units have a larger cache than the IDE units. And the cost for a good SATA is less than a mediocre IDE...I have 1 of each in my system, both DVD/RW RAM drives...the SATA is faster/efficient burning at 16x...same files, same burning software, same blank discs.
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2010, 09:42:42 PM »
Optical devices are already a dead end product

I disagree entirely. It's going to be the premiere way of installing new content for a long time to come (optical being either CD, DVD, BlueRay, whatever comes after BlueRay). It's fast, cheap, reliable, and shock/drop resistant. Future-technology-wise, I'd agree something will replace it, but that something will probably also be an optical disc. Optical disc technology will probably be around for another 10-15 years in some form or another.

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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 09:58:12 PM »
You could be right... I hear there is a new patent coming for holographic storage at nano scales... seems like sci-fi to me.

Atomic Holographic Optical Data Storage NanoTechnology

http://colossalstorage.net/home.htm

And why I feel like I said before... its dead already:

http://themediaguru.blogspot.com/2008/02/hd-dvd-is-dead-whats-next.html
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2010, 10:45:43 PM »
And why I feel like I said before... its dead already:

http://themediaguru.blogspot.com/2008/02/hd-dvd-is-dead-whats-next.html
Geez...that's because Blu Ray was chosen over HD DVD by the movie industry as the new media for future movie releases. I know you didn't miss the headlines when it was announced.
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2010, 11:02:52 PM »
All I lack to going IDE free is a new dvd burner.  I hate that damn IDE cable, such a pita to work around.  I've been thinking about that for the last few months.  It can't help but improve airflow right?

How about just buying a round IDE cable?
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2010, 11:28:43 PM »
How about just buying a round IDE cable?

Those round cables certified?
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2010, 11:54:58 PM »
I had a round cable for my old puter never had a problem.  There's a thread from last year about ide cables was pretty good.


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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 01:53:49 AM »
You can patent anything, whether or not it's physically possible. Actually producing holographic storage? Get back to me when they hurdle the 20 years of research needed to make that feasible, let alone within household computing budgets.


P.S. They've been daydreaming about holographic storage for 15 years now. Biggest problem is it's volatile, only persists as long as the power is running.

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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2010, 04:52:13 AM »
Geez...that's because Blu Ray was chosen over HD DVD by the movie industry as the new media for future movie releases. I know you didn't miss the headlines when it was announced.
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2010, 05:46:52 AM »
Those round cables certified?

I switched out all the IDE  cables in my old Dell to round ones.  Works just like it always did but the wiring's a lot cleaner.
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Re: Legacy IDE drives
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2010, 06:49:37 AM »
I have one of each, SATA seems faster. Almost tempting to replace the old ide drive with a blue ray, almost.