Aircraft in aces high II

[The Fugitive]

Yeah, it was like 11  o'clock where I live. You're lucky I was still forming coherent scentences by that time  .

ahhhh, but you weren't! Thats what Hitech was pointing out! 

[Nemisis]

I was coherent, I was just confusing my terms by that time. If I had made that post at, say, 8 o'clock, I would have said "thrust to weight ratio of 1:1".

After about 10, I can't think strait, and after 11, I'm lucky to make any sense what so ever.

[bj229r]

This thread make me think of something: The F16 is unique as, if I'm understanding correctly, it's thrust at burner actually eXCEEDS the weight of the jet? So...it can accelerate going straight up. What propeller-driven craft has come closest to that?

[hitech]

This thread make me think of something: The F16 is unique as, if I'm understanding correctly, it's thrust at burner actually eXCEEDS the weight of the jet? So...it can accelerate going straight up. What propeller-driven craft has come closest to that?

Any helicopter.

HiTech

[bj229r]

bahhhh

[Nemisis]

      

Don't forget the Osprey.

[Ghosth]

FYI the  F15's had a much higher than 1 -1 thrust to weight ratio.

Could go from deck to 60k straight up on afterburner.

From Wiki

Fighters

F15C  46,900 (2) each engine each producing 46,900 lbs of thrust.
Aircraft weight, full fuel, 51,023
Max takeoff load            81,000
Thrust to weight full fuel 1.14

As fuel burned it would just get better.

F-15K    F-15C    Mig-29K    Mig-29B    F-22
1.14    1.03    1.00    1.15    1.14

I believe the F14 would do similar.

[whipster22]

Any helicopter.

HiTech

cruel 

[curry1]

FYI the  F15's had a much higher than 1 -1 thrust to weight ratio.

Could go from deck to 60k straight up on afterburner.

From Wiki

Fighters

F15C  46,900 (2) each engine each producing 46,900 lbs of thrust.
Aircraft weight, full fuel, 51,023
Max takeoff load            81,000
Thrust to weight full fuel 1.14

As fuel burned it would just get better.

F-15K    F-15C    Mig-29K    Mig-29B    F-22
1.14    1.03    1.00    1.15    1.14

I believe the F14 would do similar.

F-15K hmm going to have to look that one up.

[Spikes]

I was coherent, I was just confusing my terms by that time. If I had made that post at, say, 8 o'clock, I would have said "thrust to weight ratio of 1:1".

After about 10, I can't think strait, and after 11, I'm lucky to make any sense what so ever.

You use a shovel to dig that hole?

[Masherbrum]

Ok now I am confused? What produces thrust or in this case more thrust if not the engine??  I are NOT an engineer

The Propeller creates the thrust (on a prop plane).   

When the propeller on the aircraft engine rotates, it pulls in air from in front of the aircraft and pushes it back towards the tail. The force generated by this action is called "thrust".  Thrust gives the aircraft forward momentum, and in turn, creates lift on the lifting surfaces (mainly the wings). Generally, the greater the thrust, the greater the airspeed. Thrust is controlled by raising or lowering the revolutions-per-minute (rpm) of the engine by using the throttle.

[IrishOne]

wait, wait........u lost me at "propeller" 

[hitech]

Thrust is controlled by raising or lowering the revolutions-per-minute (rpm) of the engine by using the throttle.

Or by increase toque on the prop along with  increasing the pitch of the prop. I.E. constant speed props.

HiTech

[Masherbrum]

Or by increase toque on the prop along with  increasing the pitch of the prop. I.E. constant speed props.

HiTech

Correct, sorry Dale for not including that.   

[Nemisis]

Yes, but the prop is just a tool utilized by the engine.