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Offline Squire

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Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« on: June 01, 2010, 10:48:47 PM »
Going with B-25Cs instead of B-26s. Other changes are included from any I posted previously. The RAF used large #s of B-25s with the 2nd TAF, and since we used B-26s in "Breaking Gustav", I prefer them in this setup. Worth the same # of points. Allied CiC is advised.

OOB:
 
Axis (Luftwaffe):

Bf 109G-14
Bf 109G-6 (min 24)
Fw 190A-5 (min 24)
Fw 190A-8 (min 24)
Fw 190F-8 (min 24)
Recon Aircraft: Ar 234 (6 per frame, no formations) *Special mission aircraft*

Allied (USAAF/RAF/RCAF):

Spitfire XVI (max 48)
Spitfire VIII (max 12)
Typhoon (max 48)
Mosquito VI
P-51B
P-47D-25 (min 24)
P-38J (min 24)
A-20G
B-25C (max 24 players, formations enabled, glass nosed bomber only)
Recon Aircraft: Spitfire FR XIV (Spitfire XIV, 12 per frame) *Special mission aircraft*

Special Rules and Ordnance Restrictions: Each a/c type must be used by a *minimum of 12 players* unless otherwise specified. The Recon Aircraft have an OPTIONAL mission ability to make a tactical reconnaissance run. The recon a/c may also be used in their regular fighter/bomber/attack roles. The Ar 234s RATOs will be disabled. The Spitfire XVI will have rockets disabled. B-25Cs have no strafer option. Axis aircraft are not permitted to go feet dry over England.

Special Missions (Optional): Recon missons are filmed (ALt-R) over a strike target at 4000 ft or less within light flak range and/or over the center area of the target after the strike is completed but within 60 min of frame start. They must rtb safely to get the points for the mission. Confirmation film to be emailed to the Admin CM.
Scoring:

Aircraft Pts
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B-25 = 20 pts
Arado 234 = 25pts
Twin Engined aircraft = 10 pts
Single Engined aircraft = 5 pts
Spitfire FR XIV = 20 pts

Landing Bonus = 5 pts

Ground Target Pts
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Gun = 0.1 pts
Ammo Bunker = 3 pts
Barracks = 3 pts
Radar = 3 pts
Vehicle Hangar = 25 pts
Fighter Hangar = 25pts
Bomber Hangar = 25 pts
Town Building = 3 pts
Factory at strategic target = 3 pts
Truck in convoy = 1 pt
Train = 2 pts
Destroyer = 50 pts
Cruiser = 100 pts
Recon mission = 50 pts per strike target

Arena Settings:

- Battle of Britain (bob09) terrain
- Fuel burn 1.2
- Icons short (3k)
- 0.5 Ack
- Fighter and Bomber warning range 42,000 (about 8 miles)
- Tower range set to 42,000 (for display only to match the above setting)
- Haze/fog full visability (17 miles)
- Radar off
- Enemy Collisions On
- Friendly collisions off
- Killshooter off
- Time: 15:00 ( 3PM ) Game Clock
- Formations: On
- Bomber calibration: Manual

- Wind: 0-2K NO WIND
        2K-18K W TO E - Speed 5
        18K-24K NW TO SE - Speed 10
        24k+ W TO E - Speed 15


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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 04:17:33 AM »
The Allies get spit16's and the axis doesn't even get Dora's?  :huh
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 06:41:03 AM »
our XVI must be subbing for LFIX, and doras werent in service at that point.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2010, 06:43:07 AM by RTHolmes »
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 02:02:57 PM »
our XVI must be subbing for LFIX, and doras werent in service at that point.
Nor was the XVI.

If you get a not in service sub, why can't we have the K4 as a sub for the G10?
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 02:19:24 PM »
cmon you already know the deal ... most common IX produced by far was LF, but we have the F. the closest we have to the LFIX is the XVI. the only practical difference between them is the additional reach of 2x.50 vs 4x.303.
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 02:24:59 PM »
cmon you already know the deal ... most common IX produced by far was LF, but we have the F. the closest we have to the LFIX is the XVI. the only practical difference between them is the additional reach of 2x.50 vs 4x.303.
What I am trying to get at though is the IX competes pretty well performance wise...do you really need those 50 cals?

The Axis could really use a K4, which would be our only high alt worthy bird...since the G14 drops off a bit.
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 03:24:54 PM »
Whoa.   :confused:

This changes everything.  Now I need to start my planning all over!   :(

j/k

But it does change things quite a bit.  Going from bombers that are able to defend themselves to bombers that are otherwise hogtied does change the thinking a bit... back to the drawing board!!!  :)
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 05:38:53 PM »
Gonna be a short night for the Allied bomber pilots.   :mad:

Allies were known for elevating the strategic bomber to new and unseen levels and we get stuck with the A20 and the B25.

This is crazy!!  Who is steering this ship?  This guy needs to get more sources than the Time Life Books series on WWII.   :furious
« Last Edit: June 02, 2010, 05:40:38 PM by TheBug »
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 08:05:38 PM »
If you read the right-up, you'll see that this FSO was designed around the RAF's 2nd Tactical AF and the US 9th AF, which were not strategic bomber groups. These groups saw extensive action during the period described, so you might want to rethink your last statement.

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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 09:16:37 PM »
I refuse to be accused of thinking!
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 09:22:44 PM »
Gonna be a short night for the Allied bomber pilots.   :mad:

Allies were known for elevating the strategic bomber to new and unseen levels and we get stuck with the A20 and the B25.

This is crazy!!  Who is steering this ship?  This guy needs to get more sources than the Time Life Books series on WWII.   :furious

Remember, the scope of what is going on in the summer of 1944 is far greater than what FSO can accomplish in one mini-campaign.

Relax a bit.
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 09:41:58 PM »
Relax??

Oh my gravy!!

The fate of all the Allied bomber pilots lives are at stake here and you want me to relax.

This could potentially be the first FSO I would rather be at work instead.   :(
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 10:41:51 PM »
Ok Bug stop being mischievous and go HO something in the AvA. Mischievous, you know, its rare you get to use that word in a sentence, I like it.  ;)
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010, 10:47:50 PM »
Sorry, I guess I took the bait. Was a bad day and I read it wrong, it did seem odd coming from thebug.
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Re: Adjustment to OOB for "Angels Eight"
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2010, 11:41:36 PM »
:headscratch:

Why does the uberten Spit16 have a max of 48, yet the porked Spit8, in comparison to the 16, have a max of 12?  Sry, this makes no sense.