The tater chucker get nerfed?

[AWwrgwy]

I've been wondering if that bug is affecting the 20mm as well. Doesn't appear to be but then it's not often you fire just 1 or 2 rounds of 20mm.

It should affect the 20mm as well since the bug isn't with the ammo type or round but with the damage model.  It would also affect thrown rocks the same too if we had thrown rocks.


wrongway

[hitech]

Oh my, 30:15 = 2:1

Nope, more like if I put in twice the fuel I'll go twice as far.

You gave the reason, you've said all weapons are affected equally by the bug. So yeah, if that's true, better hit ratios will be affected more.

I agree with your analogy, but 1 problem does MORE me quantity or does MORE me percentage.
Does more mean number of bullets hit or does more me lethality.
Or does more mean # of kills or does more mean kill ratio?

HiTech

[gyrene81]

It would also affect thrown rocks the same too if we had thrown rocks.


wrongway

Hmmmm...I think that's what I've been doing lately. Little tiny rocks too.

[dmdchief]

I can't believe this thread is still going,     ROTFLMAO

[2bighorn]

Does more mean number of bullets hit or does more me lethality.
Or does more mean # of kills or does more mean kill ratio?

percentage of rounds doing no damage.

Now I don't know how frequently (or randomly) that damage bug occurs, but it's very probably that the more rounds you fire, the closer your dud rate is to overall average.
So, in that case, the longer you fly, the closer end result would be between, lets say 30mm and 50cals.

On the other hand, for the smaller sample, difference would be larger.

But if damage/no damage occurs randomly, then all bets are off. But only you would know that, so I'm not going into that.





 

[hitech]

percentage of rounds doing no damage.

Now I don't know how frequently (or randomly) that damage bug occurs, but it's very probably that the more rounds you fire, the closer your dud rate is to overall average.
So, in that case, the longer you fly, the closer end result would be between, lets say 30mm and 50cals.

On the other hand, for the smaller sample, difference would be larger.

But if damage/no damage occurs randomly, then all bets are off. But only you would know that, so I'm not going into that.

Does more mean percentage total or percentage change?

HiTech

[dedalos]

What?  So it has not my computer all this time? 

[RTHolmes]

I just want to know how grizz is making deflection shots with .50s in lag pursuit. Ive experienced your deadly 30mm aim before, but thats some kind of .50 magic right there

[2bighorn]

Does more mean percentage total or percentage change?

Sorry, I just looked at correct "More"
We are looking at that one, right?

You gave the reason, you've said all weapons are affected equally by the bug. So yeah, if that's true, better hit ratios will be affected more.

That would mean percentage of total, ie case 1 has twice as many (on target) duds
case 1:
100 rounds fired. 30 hits. 6 duds
case 2
100 rounds fired. 15 hits. 3 duds.

But with diff rounds we get diff picture (in some cases)
Scenario
Small samples (simplified):
lets say 100 50cals equals 1 30mm (and also takes same amount to kill target ie 100x50cal rounds or 1x30mm)
lets say dud percentage is 10 in both types of ammo

50 cals
I fire 100 rounds at target, 90 do damage. I have to fire 10 more rounds, no damage. I fire 10 more. One dud. Fire 1 more. Target killed. Had to fire 121% of rounds
30mm A
I fire 1 round,  no kill, I have to fire 1 more round. Target killed. Had to fire 200% rounds

Now if both types would be fired equal amount that would average out over long period of time (same dud percentage)
But 30mm is more lethal, it will always be fired less than 50cal. and deviation from average (among individuals) will always be more (Law of Probability).

[hitech]

2bighorn , Have you factored in fire rates?

2bighorn, Obviously you understand the stats no problem.

But we are now far off the original premise that 30 mm are effected more then other weapons.

while that premise can be true depending on the definitions.

The statement the 50 cal is effected more then the 30 mm , can be equally true depending on the definitions.

And my point of jumping in this is just to point out that even after finding and describing the bug, some players still wish to show they are the victims more then others. My guess will be in about a month they still will wish to claim there is a bug with the 30 mm, but all other rounds are not effected.

HiTech

[LLogann]

I don't care what you say, something is wrong with my Volkov 23mm rounds............   

And my point of jumping in this is just to point out that even after finding and describing the bug, some players still wish to show they are the victims more then others.

HiTech

[2bighorn]

2bighorn , Have you factored in fire rates?

No, I didn't.

But we are now far off the original premise that 30 mm are effected more then other weapons.

while that premise can be true depending on the definitions.

The statement the 50 cal is effected more then the 30 mm , can be equally true depending on the definitions.

Agree

And my point of jumping in this is just to point out that even after finding and describing the bug, some players still wish to show they are the victims more then others. My guess will be in about a month they still will wish to claim there is a bug with the 30 mm, but all other rounds are not effected.

Hehe, very true

[TonyJoey]

in about a month
HiTech

WHat else might we be getting? 

[killnu]

would you agree that it is more noticeable with a 30mm?  I seem to notice it a lot more with it since I fire a round...it hits...and plane flies off.  Pretty darn noticeable.  I fire 100 rounds of 50 cal in a plane...75 of them may do damage...little smoke, flap come off...whatever....but I see something happen to the plane...and expect something to happen to the plane.  30mm landing...i expect something to happen as well...then it doesnt.  I notice that.

[SunBat]

My guess will be in about a month they still will wish to claim there is a bug with the 30 mm, but all other rounds are not effected.

Normally I would agree with your guess. However, in this case those who were complaining are some of the most "successful" players in the game and are not typically found criticizing and whining about this game but rather defending it on this BBS.  

They made a simple observation that actually revealed a small bug. Why the bitterness?