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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2010, 02:44:38 PM »
get a throttle controller that has a split stick so you can control 2 engines!   :D

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2010, 03:36:22 PM »
Someone sells split stick controllers?


« Last Edit: June 11, 2010, 03:40:51 PM by Dawger »

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2010, 03:45:52 PM »
Spawn on runway, turn off one engine and then full power on working engine.  Go round and round and round.


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In a real airplane without nose wheel steering and a free castoring nose wheel that is exactly what would happen. I've done it in a Tricycle gear Beech 18. Not at full power. That would be nuts.

 The only major difference is in real world you can close the throttle and the airplane has some momentum. In AH the airplane stops cold when you close the throttle.

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2010, 04:14:13 PM »
In a real airplane without nose wheel steering and a free castoring nose wheel that is exactly what would happen. I've done it in a Tricycle gear Beech 18. Not at full power. That would be nuts.

Cool to know.  I've always believed it wasn't a bug and just attributed it to how it worked in real life.  Glad to know now for certain it is how it was.


 
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The only major difference is in real world you can close the throttle and the airplane has some momentum. In AH the airplane stops cold when you close the throttle.

Yeah, that's why it's easy to taxi with one engine if you still have momentum and a pain in the bellybutton if you don't.  Even though it is possible to taxi with one engine, the process is another pain in the ass.

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2010, 06:22:37 PM »
In P38L today, landed w/ one engine out.   Tried to steer while taxi-ing on the runway.  Full opposite rudder and was still going in circles if I didn't have throttle at almost zero.
Have had this happen in a 262 with a pilot wound. Landed near a v-base & slightly over shot a hard pad & spun around in circles on the ground until I blew up :lol I was only about 3 feet from pad just could not get a wheel on it though. This was a long time ago not sure if it would still be the same now with the remodeled 262.

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2010, 08:05:20 PM »
Someone sells split stick controllers?




saitek av8or has dual throttle, so does their new x65..

anyway any true 38 stick would get a ch flightsim yoke and a throttle quadrant :)

« Last Edit: June 11, 2010, 08:07:28 PM by kvuo75 »
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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2010, 09:24:37 PM »
saitek av8or has dual throttle, so does their new x65..

anyway any true 38 stick would get a ch flightsim yoke and a throttle quadrant :)



I still fly with a 10 year old MS Precision Pro and CH throttle. Not gonna change anytime soon :)

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2010, 11:57:14 PM »
Saitek has a dual throttle in their inventory.

Thrustmaster will have one very shortly, 'Spring 2010'.

CH has no plans to put a dual throttle out this year, 2010.

Or you could build your own, like I did.  :devil

(honestly, its not worth the effort. Its nice for hammerheads and a little more but it gets me in more trouble than it is worth.)
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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2010, 03:07:25 AM »
AH planes don't work properly with the wheels vs ground interactions. It seems you can actually pivot around your center (of the plane) rather than around the wheel-touches-ground points. For example, you cannot replicate the B-17 backup manuver of locking one wheel and then revving the engines on the same wing up to "walk" the plane backwards. Instead you just pivot about, rather than actually walk backwards.

That, in my opinion, is why in a twin-engine plane with 1 engine out/off, you cannot taxi properly because the friction vs the ground and the direction the wheels can roll isn't there to keep the plane rolling straight. It's really not "that" big of a deal, but it's annoying when it rears its head.

With 1 eng out unless you land on the runway you'll almost never be able to taxi back onto the cement to tower out safely. I stopped doing that years back (opting instead to turn both eng off rather than land with 1).

P.S. That's also why wind at ground level doesn't work properly IMO, the tires just don't work right so you go skidding when in the real world they keep you on a straight (straight-ER) path with a crosswind.

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2010, 08:29:41 AM »
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Kill the manned ack.

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2010, 05:31:47 PM »
http://www.chproducts.com/retail/t_tq_quad.html


du·al
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of, pertaining to, or noting two.
2.
composed or consisting of two people, items, parts, etc., together; twofold; double: dual ownership; dual controls on a plane.

The throttle quad is neither 'dual', nor was it released in 2010.


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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2010, 11:36:36 AM »

du·al
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composed or consisting of two people, items, parts, etc., together; twofold; double: dual ownership; dual controls on a plane.

The throttle quad is neither 'dual', nor was it released in 2010.




i was referencing the dual throttle configuration.





but youre right it is not new :)

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2010, 12:55:25 PM »
i was referencing the dual throttle configuration.





but youre right it is not new :)



That is a dual throttle configuration for a piston engine airplane with controllable pitch props. props throttle mixtures. Looking at that thing gives me nightmares.

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Re: P38L taxi with one engine out
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2010, 02:12:53 PM »
If you want to discus this further please start up a thread outside of "Bug Reports"

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