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Offline Curlew

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B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« on: June 09, 2010, 10:00:16 PM »
So I recieved this in my email, figured you would all get a kick out of this. A b-17 fitted with extra guns flying alone over the pacific took on 17 zekes and survived, shown here in a "dogfights" style show. The pilot and bombardier were awarded the MOH, and the rest of the crew Distinguished Service Crosses. It was the highest decorated crew in the pacific.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Im086TCu3I
 :salute to those brave men

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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 12:24:46 AM »
Yea I've seen this one before brave guys. :salute

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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 01:18:00 AM »
Wow...no guts no glory. That was some ornery men to take that mission and come out of it.  :salute
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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 05:29:25 AM »
Outstanding! 2 Medal of Honor awarded on same flight, 17 to 1 odds of making it back home, and they completed the mission. Just remarkable. Thanks for posting. I've never seen this one before.  :salute
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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 07:46:42 AM »
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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 09:51:13 AM »
 I think there was a typo there. It should have said Ol' 999 :)

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 12:46:27 PM »
nice find  :aok  if we could only bring back the flying deathstars in this game ( person for every gun position)
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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 01:10:48 PM »
Outstanding! 2 Medal of Honor awarded on same flight, 17 to 1 odds of making it back home, and they completed the mission. Just remarkable. Thanks for posting. I've never seen this one before.  :salute

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Rank and organization: Major, U.S. Army Air Corps. Place and date: Over Buka area, Solomon Islands, 16 June 1943. Entered service at: Machias, Maine. Birth: Carlisle, Pa. G.O. No.: 1, 4 January 1944. Citation: On 16 June 1943, Maj. Zeamer (then Capt.) volunteered as pilot of a bomber on an important photographic mapping mission covering the formidably defended area in the vicinity of Buka, Solomon Islands. While photographing the Buka airdrome. his crew observed about 20 enemy fighters on the field, many of them taking off. Despite the certainty of a dangerous attack by this strong force, Maj. Zeamer proceeded with his mapping run, even after the enemy attack began. In the ensuing engagement, Maj. Zeamer sustained gunshot wounds in both arms and legs, 1 leg being broken. Despite his injuries, he maneuvered the damaged plane so skillfully that his gunners were able to fight off the enemy during a running fight which lasted 40 minutes. The crew destroyed at least 5 hostile planes, of which Maj. Zeamer himself shot down 1. Although weak from loss of blood, he refused medical aid until the enemy had broken combat. He then turned over the controls, but continued to exercise command despite lapses into unconsciousness, and directed the flight to a base 580 miles away. In this voluntary action, Maj. Zeamer, with superb skill, resolution, and courage, accomplished a mission of great value.


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*SARNOSKI, JOSEPH R. (Air Mission)

Rank and organization: Second Lieutenant, U.S. Army Air Corps, 43rd Bomber Group, Place and date: Over Buka Area, Solomon Islands, 16 June 1943. Entered service at: Simpson, Pa. Born. 30 January 1915, Simpson, Pa. G.O. No.: 85, 17 December 1943. Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action above and beyond the call of duty. On 16 June 1943, 2d Lt. Sarnoski volunteered as bombardier of a crew on an important photographic mapping mission covering the heavily defended Buka area, Solomon Islands. When the mission was nearly completed, about 20 enemy fighters intercepted. At the nose guns, 2d Lt. Sarnoski fought off the first attackers, making it possible for the pilot to finish the plotted course. When a coordinated frontal attack by the enemy extensively damaged his bomber, and seriously injured 5 of the crew, 2d Lt. Sarnoski, though wounded, continued firing and shot down 2 enemy planes. A 20-millimeter shell which burst in the nose of the bomber knocked him into the catwalk under the cockpit. With indomitable fighting spirit, he crawled back to his post and kept on firing until he collapsed on his guns. 2d Lt. Sarnoski by resolute defense of his aircraft at the price of his life, made possible the completion of a vitally important mission.


B-17s in the Pacific rarely flew in formation and often flew alone or in flights of 4 or less. 

There were never really more than 30 operational B-17's at one time due to priorities of Europe.  Specifically lack of aircraft and spare parts.

The B-17 also, as we know, was very resilient to attack and more often than not managed to limp home with damage.


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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 01:12:07 PM »
So I recieved this in my email, figured you would all get a kick out of this. A b-17 fitted with extra guns flying alone over the pacific took on 17 zekes and survived, shown here in a "dogfights" style show. The pilot and bombardier were awarded the MOH, and the rest of the crew Distinguished Service Crosses. It was the highest decorated crew in the pacific.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Im086TCu3I
 :salute to those brave men

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Read the story of Lt. Col Jay Zeamer, it's as fasinating of a story as the map making mission over Bougainville.  

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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 02:53:23 PM »

The B-17 also, as we know, was very resilient to attack and more often than not managed to limp home with damage.


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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 03:46:22 PM »
their is a is dogfights episode almost exactly like this but this one has a Brit narrator but don't get me wrong they were a great aircrew 
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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 03:55:15 PM »
I find the modern CGI documentaries dull and lacking compared to the old wartime documentaries which used real footage. This one over Europe is particularly engaging: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEhd5M9uHho&feature=fvw
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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 06:59:29 PM »
oh oh they said the b-17 carried 8,000 lbs, and ours carry 6........
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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 12:53:41 PM »


B-17s in the Pacific rarely flew in formation and often flew alone or in flights of 4 or less. 

There were never really more than 30 operational B-17's at one time due to priorities of Europe.  Specifically lack of aircraft and spare parts.

The B-17 also, as we know, was very resilient to attack and more often than not managed to limp home with damage.


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Old 666 was a special B-17 though, she was the most heavily armed B-17 in the PTO at the time with special modifications like a forward firing .50 cals fired by the pilot.  It also helped that Lt. Col Jay Zeamer was a special kind of pilot, not just your typical bomber pilot but rather had a 'fighter pilot stuck in a bomber' type of mentality and would regularly fly his B-17 as though it was a fighter.  He'd routinely dive to the deck to strafe planes on an airfield or to strafe the search lights or AAA emplacements.

Too bad Old 666 was sold for scrap after the war.  Don't think any pictures exist of her either.

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Re: B-17 Old 666 vs 17 zekes
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2010, 01:13:27 PM »
oh oh they said the b-17 carried 8,000 lbs, and ours carry 6........
I caught that too. What's up with that HTC?
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