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Offline grizz441

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16 yr old teen lost at sea
« on: June 10, 2010, 05:55:15 PM »
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iNcCJg-kSyZBjLhEB3fRtcYzaQOgD9G8MB6O1

So apparently this girl was trying to sail across the world by herself at the age of 16 and her parents were totally okay with it.  Now there's no contact, and it's not looking good.  It really baffles me that her parents would let her do this.  In fact, it's outright idiocy and blatant neglect.  Here's a quote that the mom used to justify it:

"Could there be a tragedy?" MaryAnne Sunderland told ABC News. "Yeah, there could be. But there could be a tragedy on the way home tonight, you know, or driving with her friends in a car at 16."

Unreal.

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 05:58:48 PM »
I hope they find her.

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 06:02:47 PM »
There's 16 year olds who have more maturity than some people twice their age (hell, you can see it from the maturity of some 30+ year-olds on these forums....) It's unfair to say that the girl didn't have the skill to handle this just because of her age. 200 years ago you had 16 year olds serving as officers and sailors on ships of war.

It will certainly be a tragedy if the worst comes to pass, but you can't blame the parents for a teenager wanting to do something POSITIVE that they enjoy.
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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 06:14:01 PM »
There's 16 year olds who have more maturity than some people twice their age (hell, you can see it from the maturity of some 30+ year-olds on these forums....) It's unfair to say that the girl didn't have the skill to handle this just because of her age. 200 years ago you had 16 year olds serving as officers and sailors on ships of war.

It will certainly be a tragedy if the worst comes to pass, but you can't blame the parents for a teenager wanting to do something POSITIVE that they enjoy.

yes you can!!! until they are adults they are under YOUR supervision, I will be dead before I let my kids do the things "they want"
 it's called good parenting, the parenting of today is straight up horrible they let the kids run the streets do and say whatever they want, it's sad really, very few kids now a days respect there parents, they think they have "privacy"  :rofl
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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 06:15:31 PM »
There's 16 year olds who have more maturity than some people twice their age (hell, you can see it from the maturity of some 30+ year-olds on these forums....) It's unfair to say that the girl didn't have the skill to handle this just because of her age. 200 years ago you had 16 year olds serving as officers and sailors on ships of war.

It will certainly be a tragedy if the worst comes to pass, but you can't blame the parents for a teenager wanting to do something POSITIVE that they enjoy.

If that "positive" is at the expense of considerable risk to the adolescent, then yes I can blame the parents.  

And fyi, there is no way in hell a 16 year old has enough experience to do a solo trip around the world.

Risk isn't a binary function.  There are degrees of risk.  The fact that the mother would compare soloing around the world at the age of 16 to driving a car is beyond stupid.

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 06:19:18 PM »
Is the area that she was last known to be the same place where Somali pirates have been hanging out?

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 06:19:57 PM »
I guess a 16yr old Australian girl beat her to it and just completed a solo around the world sailing trip.

I heard ships are 40-48 hours away from her last position, I hope they still find her.
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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 06:23:10 PM »
I guess a 16yr old Australian girl beat her to it and just completed a solo around the world sailing trip.

I heard ships are 40-48 hours away from her last position, I hope they still find her.
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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 06:47:28 PM »
Is the area that she was last known to be the same place where Somali pirates have been hanging out?

No, she's literally in the middle of nowhere, 550nm NNE of Port-aux-Français. Really ugly situation. Air temp around 35 degrees, 20-30 ft seas. Huge 940mb low to the south of her. The good news is the boat she's sailing is built for the hairy scary stuff with lot's of positive buoyancy ie air tight compartments built in. Thought's and prayers with her and her family for sure.

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 07:03:25 PM »
Parents USING their Daughter for FAME...

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 07:15:39 PM »
When she first set sail on her trip, alot of information about her experience sailing was brought to light by her parents and man other experienced ship captains who knew her.  She had been on boats all her life and began intense training and conditioning similar to survival courses by modern militaries.  

This information is to be considered at face value and second hand information.  

The only thing that the vast majority of uninformed individuals have been clammering about is the fact that it's a 16 year old girl doing this.  Big deal.  During the American Civil War towards the last year, 16-22 year old boys turned young men were promoted to many high ranking position on both sides and particularly in the Confederate Army the most.  Up until the turn of the 20th Century, many boys were kicked off the farm at age 12 and told to make thier own way in life and the girls were married off at 14 to 16 years of age to reduce the amount of mouths to feed left on the farm since contraception devoces hadn't been invented or perfected.

Until the Great Depression struck America during the 1930's, most children of the poor and poverished families stopped all education around 10 years of age to work in the sweat shops of industry.  The sudden loss of jobs nationwide created the first beginnings of child gangs running the streets in all major cities in America.  Crime rates went up dramatically due to thousands of children with nothing to do in the cities.

In order to control the rising crime waves from the kids, Frankiln Roosevelt through the various federal agencies and state agencies began a largescale project to kill 3 birds with one stone in the 1930's.  The first state and federal laws were passed to enforce education to all children from 1st to 8th grade and later to the 12 th grade and finally inclusion of kindergarten.  This one thing dis three seperatr thing simultaneously but with the speed of any beuracracy.

1) Created jobs in construction for new schools
2) Created jobs with hiring teachers, administrators, and support staff
3) Brought the delinquent children into the schools for an education

For the last 70 plus years, we have enjoyed this public school system that has created this so called idea that children aren't responsible until 18 due to federal law stating this.  Each child is different due to upbringing and personal experience.  It's true that the vast majority of 16 year ols are immature.  They don't have real responsibility.

A small percentage of 16 year olds due have an adult maturity to them from several different possibilites.  Anything from loss of a parent early in thier life, the unplanned pregnancy and parenthood thrust quickly and responsibilty inherent, the low income family with a drop out rate and forced into work forceearly, the family that travels to other foreign countries and exposed to third world situations, and third world children inducted into militia groups and military service resulting in taking the lives of other people.

Once upon a time, a 16 year old boy or girl was considered an adult in every sense of the word.
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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 07:26:05 PM »
Once upon a time, a 16 year old boy or girl was considered an adult in every sense of the word.

Lame ..Once upon a time Men married and had sex with 12 year old girls, Dosent make it right for NOW now DOES IT?  Times change and kids are kids longer today then from Once upon a time.

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 07:26:29 PM »
I question her experience not because of my view of her perceived maturity, but because she is 16 years old and imo to safely solo around the world, you'd need 10-20 years of boating experience.  So how many years of quality experience does she actually have?  Can't be that many.  I don't consider being on a boat at ages before you even know how to read a compass as 'experience.'

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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 07:37:37 PM »
I question her experience not because of my view of her perceived maturity, but because she is 16 years old and imo to safely solo around the world, you'd need 10-20 years of boating experience.  So how many years of quality experience does she actually have?  Can't be that many.  I don't consider being on a boat at ages before you even know how to read a compass as 'experience.'

To be blunt, raise your own damn kids. You don't know the girl. You don't know the parents. You don't know what's right for her. It's not your responsibility, and it's not your place to cast judgment.

It's a simple fact: Children who grow up with something attain a high level of expertise at it VERY quickly and early. That's why it's easier for young children to pick up foreign languages, or become virtuoso pianists. I'd trust the 16 year-old girl who spent all 16 years of their life on the water over a man twice their age if their total years of sailing experience was the same.
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Re: 16 yr old teen lost at sea
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 07:39:47 PM »
To be blunt, raise your own damn kids. You don't know the girl. You don't know the parents. You don't know what's right for her. It's not your responsibility, and it's not your place to cast judgment.

It's a simple fact: Children who grow up with something attain a high level of expertise at it VERY quickly and early. That's why it's easier for young children to pick up foreign languages, or become virtuoso pianists. I'd trust the 16 year-old girl who spent all 16 years of their life on the water over a man twice their age if their total years of sailing experience was the same.

The fact you consider any boat time from ages 0 to 5 as experience shows how bad you are clinging to straws.