M3A1 GMC

[Nemisis]

I want something light and fast, that still has a decent level of AT capabilites. Around 800 produced, and carried 59 75mm rounds.

Would be very easy to do, since it uses the same M3 gun as the M4 sherman (meaning its already coaded). This would be our first tank destroyer, and would be a good test to see how the limited traverse would affect others.

Sure its lightly armored, but it can out run anything it can't out hit.

[Nemisis]

Oh, found another one. How about the M6? Its a WC-52 Dodge with a 37mm gun mounted on the back. Might be interesting at the very least.

[BigKev03]

Dont know if this would be used in the anti tank role as it could only penetrate 3.2 - 2.8 inches of armor at abotu 500 yds at best.  Now if given HE rounds I think it would be good for base/town killing.  The open top though is a weakness thought.  But I like all new vehicles that enhance he play of the game.  I like it because it would fit good in early war and mid war.

BigKev

[321BAR]

M-18

[RaptorL]

Stuart Tank? I say yes. 

[Nemisis]

Kev, it uses the same gun as the M4A3(75), and thats at least usable up close or on someone's flanks (its mounted on a damn M3 for christ's sake. You can out run any tank, so I don't think flanking will be a problem). You can kill a T-34/76 in one shot at at least 1000yds. I know the T-34 has more than 81mm of armor (factoring in the slope).

Also, HE rounds WERE used, so you could get 59HE round to the town as fast as an M3 can get there. It would be a faster, more powerful LVTA4 when carrying them. Personally, I see no reason for excluding it, as it will add something that will improve the game, which is always good.


But honestly, I think this would be a good test for tank destroyers. And since it would require a minimal ammount of change, I figure that it wouldn't be too much to ask for.

[SmokinLoon]

I like the idea of a small and fast hard hitting but yet easy to kill vehicle.  Moving fast (55mph+), being smaller than a tank (harder to hit), and waiting in ambush would be the bane of many tankers.  Having one of these fend off or slow down an incoming gv horde would be its shining moment.

The M3A1 GMC would fit the bill nicely.  It would be "easy" to add all things considering.

[AWwrgwy]

Like the SP gun and German Tank Destroyer wishes, you would have limited traverse of the gun.  Otherwise, why not?


wrongway

[WWhiskey]

I like the idea of a small and fast hard hitting but yet easy to kill vehicle.  Moving fast (55mph+), being smaller than a tank (harder to hit), and waiting in ambush would be the bane of many tankers.  Having one of these fend off or slow down an incoming gv horde would be its shining moment.

thats one of those missions were you get lots of medals,,,, but they send them to your family!

[Nemisis]

AWwrgwy, the reason I asked for the M3A1 GMC as opposed to say, the Marder II, is that if it turns out to be a failure, all that will be wasted is maybe two days of work, rather than several weeks to a month.


Also, I don't think the limited traverse will be much of a problem, given the shoot and scoot tactics that will likely be required.

[humble]

Actually the T48 57 mm GMC would make a lot of sense, my understanding is the russians replaced the US 57mm with the Russian 57mm which was a bit more powerful....

[Beefcake]

AWwrgwy, the reason I asked for the M3A1 GMC as opposed to say, the Marder II, is that if it turns out to be a failure, all that will be wasted is maybe two days of work, rather than several weeks to a month.


Also, I don't think the limited traverse will be much of a problem, given the shoot and scoot tactics that will likely be required.

What makes you think it would only take two days of work? HTC would most likely redo the M3 chassis model before adding more variants to the line. It would make more sense to add the Sdkfz 251/22 since we already have a new SDKFZ 251 chassis.

*EDIT* I would like to add though that I would love to see the M3A1 GMC added to the game.

[321BAR]

Like the SP gun and German Tank Destroyer wishes, you would have limited traverse of the gun.  Otherwise, why not?


wrongway

simple to use, and easy to kill unless its the German TDs But i still want my M-18 first.

[Nemisis]

Beefcake, it was just an M3 tank gun mounted on an M3 halftrack. It used the same engine, same chassis, same transmistion. All HTC would have to do is model the changes to the superstructure, model the other half of the M3 gun (you can see it from the turret my moving your head possition), and slap it on top.

Just like the M6 GMC was just a regular WC-52 with a 37mm gun mounted in the back. They didn't have to change anything about it. In fact, it says they couldn't depress the gun to 0degrees when facing forward because the windshield, driver, and whoever was sitting in the passanger seat got in the way.


How long do you honestly think it will take to change the shape of the M3 superstructure, create a mirror image of the M3 gun, and put it on top? Provided they don't start from scratch.

[321BAR]

How long do you honestly think it will take to change the shape of the M3 superstructure, create a mirror image of the M3 gun, and put it on top? Provided they don't start from scratch.

it'd take alot longer than you'd think. coading takes a long time.