bomber guns.....

[Spikes]

Masherbrum, did you read anything but the OP? We've already resoved this issue.

And they are much easier to kill now that I've figured out how to use the german AA rockets.

Bombers are easy to kill even without rockets.

[Nemisis]

I mean that I can do it and barely take a hit by haning back 800ys out  .

[Beefcake]

And Beefcake, I rarely get a gunner for the few bomb runs i do. It seems that whenever I do, I'm intercepted by rather quickly and my gunner either won't shoot, or is incompetent enough to miss a 110 500yds out still climbing up to us (it can't be doing better than 175).

I fully understand the gunning for yourself part as I do it myself all the time and rarely take a gunner. However, thats not the point. The point is takeoff in a B17 and let a friend join you as gunner, then while in F3 view have the gunner man the tail gun or the ball turret and spin around. When he does this you'll see EVERY SINGLE GUN on the B17 track his movement, this includes guns like the nose turret turning completely around and aiming through the plane. Now have your friend fire the guns, you'll see EVERY gun fire and they will appear to shoot through the plane. Now ask him how many guns are firing on his screen and you'll get a different story.

[Nemisis]

hmmmm... interesting. I'll have to check that out.

[StokesAk]

Give it up... 

[Masherbrum]

Bombers are easy to kill even without rockets.

Forgive Nemesis, he's too busy spamming the BBS to stop, read and comprehend.   

[thndregg]

Forgive Nemesis, he's too busy spamming the BBS to stop, read and comprehend.   

[Spikes]

I mean that I can do it and barely take a hit by haning back 800ys out  .

Solution:
Don't attack from dead 6.
Use side angles from 3 and 9 oclock positions either above or below in fast swiping passes.

Maybe I should just write a book, "Attacking Bombers in Aces High for Dummies".

[hitech]

Please limit the number of possitions fired with the "fire all" button to be limited to 2 (per bomber, not total). Honestly, its almost impossible to attack a group of 3 or more (if they are decent shots) the way it is now. Its like flying into a wall of bullets. You get pilot wounded, they kill your engine, or just go and shoot your wing off.

Support for this idea:
The single .50's we have on the M4's tend to give a lot of damaged engines (I've given many, and I've been killed by them) or pilot wounds. Most bombers have 2 per mount, and that gives a total of 12 landing hits at convergence range. Still shouldn't be TOO much of a problem to kill something with them.

No

[sandwich]

I like my way of attacking bombers better.

Get some E.

Go underneath.

And sneak attack that guy when he's not looking.

This is best done when someone else is attacking.

Get your kill, Then go find something else to shoot at (not the same formation of bombers).

If youre as bad as a fighter pilot as I am, I suggest you stick to this simple doctorine.

[ACE]

No

[Lusche]

If youre as bad as a fighter pilot as I am, I suggest you stick to this simple doctorine.

There are simpler and more effective ones.

[guncrasher]

Note if u attack a buff from below make sure it doesn't have a ball turret. Or if it doesn't that it won't pull streight up auto pilot then ping the hell out of u.


Semp

[Jayhawk]

Forgive Nemesis, he's too busy spamming the BBS to stop, read and comprehend.   

   Well he was at 10-11 a day when he first started, then he got a nice little 30 day vacation from the boards.  I think he's working his way back up to there though.

[sandwich]

Note if u attack a buff from below make sure it doesn't have a ball turret. Or if it doesn't that it won't pull streight up auto pilot then ping the hell out of u.


Semp

Sneak up on him.

Head on pass with B24's if they have someone engaging them already.

Just take out 1 bomber. Limit their payload. Make it harder for them to pork hangars.

I dont usually go after bombers, so any time I attack one it's just to kill that 1 and leave the others to finish the rest off.