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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #105 on: July 13, 2010, 01:39:37 PM »


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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #106 on: July 13, 2010, 02:03:55 PM »
Ahhemm would you also like information like this to be supplied.  :)


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Out of curiosity, what does that prove? It doesn't say anything about the MG configuration.

That's a compilation either way, loses to period documentation every time.
You can see in this illustration that all the wing guns are within one pixel of eachother, with the outermost being the longest. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, in the real installation there was no difference between the length of the wing guns.

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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #107 on: July 13, 2010, 02:14:34 PM »
Ok not quite the gunnery info i was hopeing for as its picture sreads out to be bigger than A3 size of paper ulp and my scanners no that big  :salute  :aok
read this but i have been in contact with HTC and am awaiting a reply. as i believe that 80% of the info i have on these plane's can help them to improve on performance and what not. And let them bring in a lot more varients of the Spit F6F F4F F4U and the Beufighter.  :)
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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #108 on: July 13, 2010, 02:26:02 PM »

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Really! All they needed was more info so we'd get more Spits/F6F/F4F/F4U variants and the Beaufighter.  Dang if only Guppy knew that way back when.
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This really is a pointless diversion of the topic. The Spitfires have no issue with vertical convergence out to the max 650 yards, regardless of which model or gun package you use. If you feel that there is a problem I suggest researching it first and THEN posting your supporting documents.
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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2010, 02:31:24 PM »
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Really! All they needed was more info so we'd get more Spits/F6F/F4F/F4U variants and the Beaufighter.  Dang if only Guppy knew that way back when.
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This really is a pointless diversion of the topic. The Spitfires have no issue with vertical convergence out to the max 650 yards, regardless of which model or gun package you use. If you feel that there is a problem I suggest researching it first and THEN posting your supporting documents.

I never said there was a problem sorry if it sounded that way i have dislexia and i cant put from brain to paper very well had it since my car accident 3 years ago. and the same goe's for reading and memory storage of what i have read i can remember some but not all of it.
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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #111 on: July 13, 2010, 02:52:07 PM »
Little test I did to check out vertical harmonization. Convergence was 400 I think ( :rolleyes: always good to check all the variables before you start testing :lol ).
First thing I did was line up and do the 20yd test on auto-level, then I just left the plane on auto level, not disturbing the flight path, and did about a 1 second burst at 200 yd intervals.  Red dot is about the center of the group. Interesting results...


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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #112 on: July 13, 2010, 03:22:38 PM »
Baumer: It's finish, but that was way more of a PITA then I thought it was going to be.
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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #113 on: July 13, 2010, 03:24:02 PM »
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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #114 on: July 13, 2010, 03:32:56 PM »
Baumer: It's finish, but that was way more of a PITA then I thought it was going to be.
Ya ow me a beer.

HiTech

Thank you Hitech and the rest of HTC, sorry it turned out to be a PITA. So do you want the Beer (or Scotch) now, or at the CON? And yes I won't forget to get Sudz a veggie pizza next time.

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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #115 on: July 13, 2010, 03:56:02 PM »
Little test I did to check out vertical harmonization. Convergence was 400 I think ( :rolleyes: always good to check all the variables before you start testing :lol ).
First thing I did was line up and do the 20yd test on auto-level, then I just left the plane on auto level, not disturbing the flight path, and did about a 1 second burst at 200 yd intervals.  Red dot is about the center of the group. Interesting results...

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Wow Motherland, that is definitely cool...shows an arching bullet trajectory. I don't think that's a 400 yd convergence though, looks like it could be a bit higher.
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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #116 on: July 13, 2010, 04:23:34 PM »
Baumer: It's finish, but that was way more of a PITA then I thought it was going to be.
Ya ow me a beer.

HiTech

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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #117 on: July 13, 2010, 04:49:10 PM »
Please Santa Claus I hope you take this whole thread and stick it in the AHWiki.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #118 on: July 13, 2010, 05:02:48 PM »
I'll be working on the Wiki shortly buster I promise. I am still gathering more info, and have a lot to go over with people like TC, AKDogg, Wmaker ect. But it will be posted with plenty of WW2  training documents for fighter and bomber gunnery.
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Re: Gun sight image size analysis
« Reply #119 on: July 13, 2010, 05:46:12 PM »
Santa Claus you better be delivering a ton of whatever makes Mr. Baumer happy this Christmass.

I have a Klingon Battel Cruiser with Santa seeking photon torpedo's...... :devil
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.