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Offline DEECONX

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Re: E6B
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2010, 02:57:43 PM »
+1 for this! Also, I want a .command for manifold. Would make staying with squaddies in formation alot easier.  :D

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Re: E6B
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2010, 08:52:05 PM »
Not against the dot command it is a great idea.  Was replying to the others that have it open all the time to fly.


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While it doesn't get used as much in the MA, for FSO or Scenarios, the E6B in my planes gets a workout.  There have been missions when the only time I didn't have it up was once I had a visual ID on the bad guys.

So, while it may be hard for you to fathom, folks have some utility for it.  Personally, I really enjoyed the "do you guys fly or fight" comment.
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Re: E6B
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2010, 09:17:27 PM »
+1 for this! Also, I want a .command for manifold. Would make staying with squaddies in formation alot easier.  :D

So you want more than one button you have to push to change manifold settings vs. + and - or throttle you have now?
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Re: E6B
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2010, 12:35:27 AM »
So you want more than one button you have to push to change manifold settings vs. + and - or throttle you have now?

Well, for instance, today we were practicing formation flying, and while I will probably get better at staying with the pack, and at the right speed, it would be much easier to just .command it. But, I guess practice makes perfect so....

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Re: E6B
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2010, 12:46:56 AM »
Well, for instance, today we were practicing formation flying, and while I will probably get better at staying with the pack, and at the right speed, it would be much easier to just .command it. But, I guess practice makes perfect so....

I can see where you are coming from, but that just takes out the challenge and skill of it.  It's very possible to fly in formation together using manual control.
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Re: E6B
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2010, 12:49:35 AM »
So you want more than one button you have to push to change manifold settings vs. + and - or throttle you have now?

I think what he wants is a command to set rpm and manif to certain values to keep formation flying tight.

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Re: E6B
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2010, 01:17:12 AM »
Well, for instance, today we were practicing formation flying, and while I will probably get better at staying with the pack, and at the right speed, it would be much easier to just .command it. But, I guess practice makes perfect so....
I think what he wants is a command to set rpm and manif to certain values to keep formation flying tight.

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Oh, I know what he wants.

Read any account of formation flying and you will learn that jockeying the throttle back and forth was a necessary skill to keep one's position in formation.

It isn't as simple as hitting cruise control in game nor was it in real life.

As for the E6B thing, are we asking for a separate thing?  Like a HUD with the stats on it?

If so, a definite -1.

Again, you can already accomplish in game right now what the OP is asking for.

Is there a dot command to bring up the clipboard?  Honestly, I don't know nor would I see the point of typing .whatever instead of hitting a single key or mapped button to do the same thing.


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Re: E6B
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2010, 01:19:36 AM »
As I understand it, the request is just for a ".e6b" command to bring it up rather than having to select it from the clipboard.  I don't believe it's asking for a HUD style display.  It's a very small request that managed to get a lot of attention. 
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Re: E6B
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2010, 01:23:11 AM »
As I understand it, the request is just for a ".e6b" command to bring it up rather than having to select it from the clipboard.  I don't believe it's asking for a HUD style display.  It's a very small request that managed to get a lot of attention. 

Color me clueless then because, as I've previously stated, I can do that now.


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Re: E6B
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2010, 01:35:01 AM »
No, you can leave it open and then open up the clipboard, not do what the OP says.  I'm quite amazed how vocal the opposition is to this.  This is something that would have a terrible tiny effect, and absolutely zero effect if you choose not to use it.  Yet, some will fight it tooth and nail.  I wouldn't mind seeing it but my heart won't be broken if it doesn't.
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Re: E6B
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2010, 07:27:06 AM »
No, you can leave it open and then open up the clipboard, not do what the OP says.  I'm quite amazed how vocal the opposition is to this.  This is something that would have a terrible tiny effect, and absolutely zero effect if you choose not to use it.  Yet, some will fight it tooth and nail.  I wouldn't mind seeing it but my heart won't be broken if it doesn't.

Don't mind wrongway, he opposes everything in the wishlist forum.   :aok

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Re: E6B
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2010, 10:16:52 AM »
Oh, I know what he wants.

Read any account of formation flying and you will learn that jockeying the throttle back and forth was a necessary skill to keep one's position in formation.

It isn't as simple as hitting cruise control in game nor was it in real life.

As for the E6B thing, are we asking for a separate thing?  Like a HUD with the stats on it?

If so, a definite -1.

Again, you can already accomplish in game right now what the OP is asking for.

Is there a dot command to bring up the clipboard?  Honestly, I don't know nor would I see the point of typing .whatever instead of hitting a single key or mapped button to do the same thing.


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I like to lock my cursor to the center of the screen and hit H. Now it's not a big pain, but a bit annoying when you have to unlock, pull up the map, hit the E6B, bring the map back down, and lock the cursor into the center again.

Also your argument is moot because the E6B does not have a mapped button either.
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Re: E6B
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2010, 11:37:48 AM »
Don't mind wrongway, he opposes everything in the wishlist forum.   :aok

Not opposition.  More like dissent.  You will never see me saying, "why did they add that?  I wish they would remove it."  That's opposition.

I just try to bring some perspective.  Why I think something may not be added by the developers or may not be needed.  Just my opinion.

But otherwise, you're spot on.  Don't mind me.   :cool:


I like to lock my cursor to the center of the screen and hit H. Now it's not a big pain, but a bit annoying when you have to unlock, pull up the map, hit the E6B, bring the map back down, and lock the cursor into the center again.

Also your argument is moot because the E6B does not have a mapped button either.

I do the same thing but I only have to unlock my cursor if I want to move the map around.  Otherwise it is still just hitting the ESC button and the E6B is open.

You don't need the cursor except for the first time.


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Re: E6B
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2010, 12:19:55 PM »
Do u guys fly or fight?


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first thing i do after take off is open E6B
I feel naked without it, i hit escape soon after i see a bad con, it is not handy while in a fight but the info there is very helpful at all other times!
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Re: E6B
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2010, 03:13:12 PM »
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