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Re: ENY value
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 04:24:54 AM »
I believe ENY is an HTC's estimated value that considers performance (speed, turn-rate, climb-rate, acceleration), armament (number of rpg, caliber, and ballistics) and Arena's K/D ratio (influenced by altitude performances).

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Re: ENY value
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2010, 04:50:45 AM »
Not talking about perks, but ENY.
same thing...ENY of 15 :rolleyes:
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2010, 05:19:07 AM »
I believe ENY is an HTC's estimated value that considers performance (speed, turn-rate, climb-rate, acceleration), armament (number of rpg, caliber, and ballistics) and Arena's K/D ratio (influenced by altitude performances).



I believe popularity comes into play as well
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2010, 11:41:21 AM »
I believe popularity comes into play as well
If that is one of the reason, then a lot of AC need to be change.
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2010, 12:13:46 PM »
I believe popularity comes into play as well

I think it doesn't.  But should.  In fact, I'd base ENY solely on popularity.  The more popular an aircraft is one tour, the lower its ENY value the next tour.  Yes, some tours some aircraft will be a "bargain", and others will be too expensive for how good they are.  But it would change every tour.  It will encourage people to fly different aircraft, more than they may do already.  And if you've ever taken an economics class, you'll realize that all aircraft will eventually settle to their "true" ENY value.  And most importantly, it would be good for the game.

This is actually a suggestion I've made before ( http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,244354.msg2991024.html ), which HTC may have listened to insofar as they changed ENY values a bit since that post.

In fact there's a lot of "wishlist" discussions on this topic, where you may find some good info.  (Here's where I plug my wish: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,246499.0.html ).
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2010, 12:26:37 PM »
Betty swears up and down that its based on popularity. but I dont buy it. If it was based on popularity, the 152 woul be ENY of 25 and the 190F-8 would be ENY of 40. While the A6m5 or Ki 84 would move up to 10. Also the Typhoon wouldn't be a 10 ENY either. I see no Typhoons any more.


Think its safe to say it is NOT based on popularity.

But Betty claims this came straight from the horse's mouth so...


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Re: ENY value
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2010, 12:36:19 PM »
Betty swears up and down that its based on popularity. but I dont buy it. If it was based on popularity, the 152 woul be ENY of 25 and the 190F-8 would be ENY of 40. While the A6m5 or Ki 84 would move up to 10. Also the Typhoon wouldn't be a 10 ENY either. I see no Typhoons any more.


Think its safe to say it is NOT based on popularity.

But Betty claims this came straight from the horse's mouth so...


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It is balanced I believe.  For example, the P51D used to be Eny 7 (or was it 8?) and they moved it down to 5 after no performance changes were made.   It was consistently the most popular plane in the MAs and this is why that occured.  There are definitely some question marks/inconsistencies in the Eny set but that's because the players have a better feel for the in game strengths of the planes than the HTC staff does.

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Re: ENY value
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2010, 01:00:01 PM »
Took some searching but I found a slight overview by Pyro from 2000.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,14740.0.html
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We don't have any perk planes in 1.05, but the perk system will be on and points will be accumulating.  Plane ratings will be set from the kill stats of the current tour and will be updated as stats change with different planes becoming more or less popular.  These ratings dictate how many perk points are awarded for kills based on the plane you are flying versus the plane you shoot down.  The ratio is your plane's rating divided by the rating of the plane you shoot down.  So if Plane A has a rating of 1 and Plane B has a rating of 4, Plane A would be awarded a quarter of a point for shooting down B while B would be awarded 4 points for shooting down A.  There is also a separate rating that deals with accumulating perk points through bombing and ground attack.

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Re: ENY value
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2010, 01:06:42 PM »
Took some searching but I found a slight overview by Pyro from 2000.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,14740.0.html
That may not be the way it is now.
As far as perks are calculated it is.  But the "plane ratings" (ENY values) of the various aircraft have only been updated one time (that I've noticed) since I've started playing this game 3 years ago.
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2010, 02:51:40 PM »
Perk the Coffee...... after all these margaritas I could use some.
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2010, 03:50:53 PM »
Perk the Coffee...... after all these margaritas I could use some.

caffeinated or decaf? 
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2010, 03:55:45 PM »
Perks are the price you get for shooting down certain planes with a certain plane. Perks are used to BUY  to more high powered/elite rides.

ENY is a number used to restrict the use of a plane to the team with the larger numbers. The idea being that if you have a larger group you use weaker equipment to even out the fight a bit.

They are two completely different things...... so which one are we talking about  :headscratch:

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Re: ENY value
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2010, 05:13:14 PM »
Perks are the price you get for shooting down certain planes with a certain plane. Perks are used to BUY  to more high powered/elite rides.

ENY is a number used to restrict the use of a plane to the team with the larger numbers. The idea being that if you have a larger group you use weaker equipment to even out the fight a bit.

They are two completely different things...... so which one are we talking about  :headscratch:
ENY, how is it dose a AC get it.  For exsample:

P-51D = 8
F4U-A1 = 15
P47-D25 = 25
190-D9 = 15
109-K4 = 20
La-7 = 5

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Re: ENY value
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2010, 01:06:09 AM »
Hurricane and Brewster have close k/d ratio.....should be perked the same.


190F8 can't be 40 enter..... its too ubber
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Re: ENY value
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2010, 06:54:08 AM »
Ok, looking at your list.

P-51D = 8
F4U-A1 = 15
P47-D25 = 25
190-D9 = 15
109-K4 = 20
La-7 = 5

Of those 5 planes, which would you say is the easiest to learn to fly and get kills in, and be able to RTB?
My money would be on the La7, which puts it exactly where it should be, low.

Other end of the spectrum, you have the P47-D25 which is a much harder plane to go out and get those kills in and be able to RTB. Hence ENY of 25.  Your going to earn perks 5 times faster in a P47-d25 as you will in an La7.
Why? Because its that much harder to do.

Personally I think the 109K4 is set too high, that thing is a monster.
So to rearrange your list in ENY order.
La-7 = 5
P-51D = 8
F4U-A1 = 15
190-D9 = 15
P47-D25 = 25

Would you really say that the 190D9 is as easy to fly and get kills in as the P51 or la7?
Or is the list stacked in terms of difficulty (and possibly partially popularity)