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Offline Madkow

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2010, 01:12:27 PM »
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The lethality of the multiple cannon package on the FW 190D-13 far outstrips the lethality of 4x .50 caliber machine guns and a single 20mm.  Sure, the P-38 may have 'more guns' in number but not lethality.

This wish for the D-13 is solely based on someone that wants a late war plane with nothing but cannons. 

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The plane only has 3 20mm and NO machine guns. The upgrade is the engine.  Think of it as the axis version of the Temp with one less cannon.

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2010, 01:34:23 PM »
The plane only has 3 20mm and NO machine guns. The upgrade is the engine.  Think of it as the axis version of the Temp with one less cannon.

And you think having 3 20 mm cannons is some how less lethal than 4x .50 calibers and a single 20 mm cannon?  Again, just a wish for a plane with nothing but cannons that absolutely brings nothing new (in regards to the plane set) to the game, especially when considering only 2 were produced.


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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2010, 01:42:50 PM »
I just realized, it looks like I've been trying to argue in favor of this wish... hellz no. Rather have the A4, A6 or A9
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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2010, 06:52:55 PM »
And you think having 3 20 mm cannons is some how less lethal than 4x .50 calibers and a single 20 mm cannon?  Again, just a wish for a plane with nothing but cannons that absolutely brings nothing new (in regards to the plane set) to the game, especially when considering only 2 were produced.


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 We both know that's not what I said. What I said was that it was less lethal then the Temp but equal to the P38.   Only 2 were in actual combat but I think over 20 were made. It also brings a lot to the plane set saying it doesn't is the same as saying the Temp isn't a real upgrade from the Typh. 

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2010, 07:14:59 PM »
We both know that's not what I said. What I said was that it was less lethal then the Temp but equal to the P38.   Only 2 were in actual combat but I think over 20 were made. It also brings a lot to the plane set saying it doesn't is the same as saying the Temp isn't a real upgrade from the Typh. 

In no way is the firepower of a FW 190D-13 is equal to the firepower of 4x .50 caliber machine guns and a single 20 mm cannon on the P-38.  The 3 cannons on the D-13 trumps the P-38's firepower, to claim otherwise is just rather silly and ignoring the facts.

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2010, 07:35:37 PM »
Browning M2 = 1

Hizooka = 3.8

Mg151/20 = 3.4

Fw-190 D13 = 10.2

P38J = 7.8

Edit: Sorry, I rounded wrong with the Mg151/20. Fixed
« Last Edit: July 22, 2010, 10:33:50 PM by sandwich »

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2010, 09:22:56 PM »
Browning M2 = 1

Hizooka = 3.8

Mg151/20 = 3.3

Fw-190 D13 = 9.9

P38J = 7.8


 So that would make the Temp , Typh , Chog and most other 4 cannon birds 15.2. Like I said Ack - Ack it's just about equal to P38.

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2010, 09:37:42 PM »
Like I said Ack - Ack it's just about equal to P38.

It still doesn't change the fact you're incorrect.


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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2010, 10:16:46 PM »
It still doesn't change the fact you're incorrect.


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 I was within the margin of error.

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2010, 10:24:34 PM »

 I was within the margin of error.

There is no margin of error.  You're wrong, it's that simple.


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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2010, 10:37:48 PM »
There is no margin of error.  You're wrong, it's that simple.


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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2010, 03:47:03 PM »
well 6 109's 5 190s and there respectable variants, the 109 190 group is pretty complete, though I do agree with you about 7 spitfires, and the P47s are a bit much, was the M really that needed?

Dont know if it was needed, but I sure like flying it  :aok

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2010, 04:08:35 PM »


Fw-190 D13 = 10.2

P38J = 7.8

Edit: Sorry, I rounded wrong with the Mg151/20. Fixed

ok margin of error isnt within 2.4 when we are dealing with such small numbers in this case you were i think more or less 20%  off... i hope that your margin of error is a bit more precise than 20%...

margin of error would be like p38 9 and 190d13 10.2 or something like that...     

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2010, 04:35:17 PM »
ok margin of error isnt within 2.4 when we are dealing with such small numbers in this case you were i think more or less 20%  off... i hope that your margin of error is a bit more precise than 20%...

margin of error would be like p38 9 and 190d13 10.2 or something like that...     

1 + 1 + 1 + 1+ 3.8 = 7.8

3.4 + 3.4 + 3.4 = 10.2

I rounded the numbers to the nearest 10th and minused .2 from each one to make the 50 cal standard at 1.

Small margin of error.

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2010, 06:18:38 PM »
1 + 1 + 1 + 1+ 3.8 = 7.8

3.4 + 3.4 + 3.4 = 10.2

I rounded the numbers to the nearest 10th and minused .2 from each one to make the 50 cal standard at 1.

Small margin of error.


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