This is gonna be big...

[1776]

heheeee, me thinks me will be flyn ground vehicles

Always wanted to be ship driver though, got any ships out there for me to drive  /

[Zeiram]

I like this New idea is really good instead of Rolling Plane set like WB.

However be better to start under new scoring system & regulation.

1)Pilot does not allowed to move country under same tour.
# In order to avoid just chasing score.
Game balance will be mess  without it

2)Score for New Plane gaining must be counted under Streak.
# Only the pilot who has right staff can fly high performance aircraft right?  
This score should be zero start after killed & captured. (just Landing, safe bailout & ditch)

This game title is "ACES HIGH"
so Only Ace Pilot survived can fly high performance aircraft.
This is very fair and not refract bad efficiency for game balance.
All pilots will have motivation to be a real ACE and can fly under genteleman's agreement.  

[Hristo]

How about handle based system. If your handle is TANK, you get to fly Ta 152 no matter of your score. If you use WILLY handle, you get 262 all the time  

OK, serious now.

IMO, 2 or more planes can't be flown to their fullest by the same pilot (unless they are very close subversions).

For example, a 109 pilot who finally gets his hand on a 262 will probably do pretty poor in the beginning. There will be no chance to learn the plane. TA arena is a poor substitute here, IMO.

What I want to say here ?

Basically, if I'd get a 262 from time to time (once a week or so), I won't fly it at all. It just wouldn't be worth to put that much practice in a plane I get to fly so rarely.

Then again, YMMV  

[Maniac]

Change is good.

Bring it on HTC.



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[Nashwan]

 

Originally posted by ra:
Nash,

I see it the other way.  If points are given for a reset, what's to stop people from changing sides when it looks like one team is about to win?  Better to get a few points than none at all (is what the dweebs changing sides will say).
ra

Don't you have to wait 12 hours before changing country? I can't see anyone being able to predict a reset 12 hours in advandce.
Nash, sorry about the name clash. I've had this handle online a long time now, and never found anyone with anything similar.

[Vermillion]

TORCHES!!!!  TORCHES !!!!!  we need more TORCHES !!!!

Rock throwers to the middle, and women and children to the flanks !!

CHARGE ! <storms the HTC Castle>

hehe I agree Wmutt   Lets wait and see how it works before we get all bent out of shape over it.

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**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"

[hblair]

HTC knows what they're doing guys. Count me in...

Here's my order,
On my supper plane I would like filet mignon-medium well, baked potato-no sour cream, some texas toast, green beans, corn on the cob, sweet tea to drink, hmmm, haven't decided on desert yet.

Can't wait to start this new plan, mouth is already watering.  

[Wanker]

I'm willing to give it a good try out before I give an opinion on it.

That being said, all I ask is that it is not biased to people who fly more than others. My life is very busy, and I usually get to fly only twice or three times per week. I'd love to fly for five hours each night, but my life doesn't allow for that anymore.

HTC, please don't punish those of us that have lives outside of AH!



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[Pongo]

 

Originally posted by Nashwan:
If you award a total number of bonus points for a reset, and distribute it amongst the team members, then that is an incentive to be on the smaller team, since each pilot would get more points.
I'd like to see points based on ALL those criteria, except for hit percentage. I don't know of any airforce that valued bullets and shells so much it would reward pilots for killing with less of them.

[This message has been edited by Nashwan (edited 05-17-2000).]

I dont know. Pilots really respected marksmanship amongst their fellows. And it might help cut down on longer range shooting.

[CavemanJ]

 

Originally posted by Zeiram:

This game title is "ACES HIGH"
so Only Ace Pilot survived can fly high performance aircraft.
This is very fair and not refract bad efficiency for game balance.
All pilots will have motivation to be a real ACE and can fly under genteleman's agreement.  

So the newbies who pay the same $30/month (even some of us not so newbies) are kept out of the uber birds because we suck?  Our money not good enough?  For the first time in AH history  my K/D is better than 1/1 (not much, but it's been there the whole tour   ).  So, because I'm a mediocre pilot at best I'm stuck with the 'mundane' rides and can't have a crack at the uber ones?  Can you say "CANCEL ACCOUNT"?  I knew ya could.  I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay the same money but not be able to fly the same birds others are flying.  And if I've misunderstood what you're saying, I apologize and ask you to clarify your statement.

As for a "gentlemen's agreement" keep dreaming.  No such thing in the MA and I dinnae think there ever will be.  Especially with the uber rides depending on score.  What are you going to do if you see a smoking F8F trying to limp home and save his aircraft?  Are you going to let him go?  Hell no, you're gonna dive in to finish him off and hope you're the one getting full credit for the kill so you can get the points and pick up an uber ride.

[Pongo]

 

Originally posted by Zeiram:
I like this New idea is really good instead of Rolling Plane set like WB.

However be better to start under new scoring system & regulation.

1)Pilot does not allowed to move country under same tour.
# In order to avoid just chasing score.
Game balance will be mess  without it

2)Score for New Plane gaining must be counted under Streak.
# Only the pilot who has right staff can fly high performance aircraft right?  
This score should be zero start after killed & captured. (just Landing, safe bailout & ditch)

This game title is "ACES HIGH"
so Only Ace Pilot survived can fly high performance aircraft.
This is very fair and not refract bad efficiency for game balance.
All pilots will have motivation to be a real ACE and can fly under genteleman's agreement.  

Well I disagree with all of that.
A far eastern player trying to discourage people from changing coutries. Only aces got good planes. You are stating that like a historical fact or something...Of course it is not true.
HTC uses the score system know in place to encorage a balanced game play. It works well for that. It sounds like they want to encourage team play in the new version. Lots of those stats they mentioned will only be accomplished by regulare schwarm flying.
They could set the bar so high that no one here would qualify...that would be cool..keep refining stratagy and team work till when someone finaly does get awarded the F8F we all just want to watch him put on an air show for us...

[Torque]

How about the same as the TV show "Who's line is it anyways" points are awarded but mean nothing!

Plus how are they goning factor in jabo runs, do we get extra points for flying hvy fighters.The issue is to complex for just 1 formula

[Pongo]

 

Originally posted by hitech:
Dead Man Flying.


1. base the points on field captures.
2. Base the point's on simply your total number of kills.
3. Base the points on hit percentage.
4. Base the points on kills of lesser flown v more flown planes.
5. Award points to everone online in the country when a war reset happens.

Just a note.
Not a single Defensive benchmark
There are allready squads here that dont defend anything. Certainly it as important to hold your last 3 fields as it is to take someones last 3 fields..
hard on your kill to death score though so the people that do that arnt "Aces" in some peoples minds.

Find a way to establish who is being gang banged and award them constant points for defence.

Big points for shooting down a goon. Or troops.

Point muliplier for kills when your DAR is down...

Big point cost for changeing teams.(dont know about this but will probably be neccassary)

Carreer only bonus of any flight that lands with a kill or assist or damage to the enemy. Not more points for any landed kill but a bonus if the landed flight had any successful combat.

We should make the Wingman command have more weight. Wingman should have to be accepted like the gunner is.
A wingman should get some points for every thing his wingy does. 1/4 points for AC killed and damaged. Some kind of Wingman landed bonus...

In general though I think you should put some defencive incentives in there.

[Pongo]

 

Originally posted by bloom25:
Perhaps we could be given points every week.  We can then add to them by capturing a field, shooting down a plane (as per above), landing your plane after a kill, etc.  Then we could use those points to "buy" sorties in the special planes.  If you land them, you don't lose those points.  If you ditch, you lose 1/2 the points.  Bail = 3/4.  Die = all points you spent to fly the plane are lost.

Whatever you do, you can't punish people who don't have time to fly as much as others, or completely prevent newbies from flying the special stuff.  AH wouldn't last too long if you did that.  IMO the best method is to give everyone enough points to allow them to be able to fly the better planes.  If they are sucessful, they can earn the right to continue to fly them.

I'm sure there is some way to do this...

I like that....
I mean if a guy NEVER gets to fly the planes in the MA would be too harsh. Make it so a guy gets at least one uber plane to trash a tour....

[Toad]

I'll be quite willing to give this idea a try. I'm sure it will be introduced, evolve a while and then either be kept or scrapped. No biggie, as long as AH is still fun.

I've got one question, though. What does this sort of comment add to the discussion or the community?

 

Originally posted by HaHa:
For you "quakers" that thinks this is a bad idea.. go fly offline then...

Is this another "play it MY way or hit the road" statement? I thought we had just been all through this type of sentiment with the "stick a fork in me" threads!

I'll play until it's not fun. But I'll NEVER claim that "MY way is the ONLY way".

Have a nice day...and can't we all just get along?