Arena Cap stuff

[guncrasher]

I agree it is the same percentage but the number of >sss@@) doubles.  It has to do with numbers x number of beer consumed /eny.


Semp

[The Fugitive]

Check your math there fugitive.  

25/250 is the same percentage as 50/500.

That's the point I'm trying to make. 10% is 10%, but by doubling the number of people in the arena you have also doubled the number of Aholes, there by giving you a better chance of running into them. This is one of the reasons HTC has to cut back the arena numbers. As the numbers increase in the arenas the "Ahole" density increases which is the "negative factor" that they are trying to tone down.

[grizz441]

That's the point I'm trying to make. 10% is 10%, but by doubling the number of people in the arena you have also doubled the number of Aholes, there by giving you a better chance of running into them. This is one of the reasons HTC has to cut back the arena numbers. As the numbers increase in the arenas the "Ahole" density increases which is the "negative factor" that they are trying to tone down.

I must be having a slow weekend because I still don't see how the density increases in your example.

[Lusche]

As the numbers increase in the arenas the "Ahole" density increases which is the "negative factor" that they are trying to tone down.

No it doesn't. The density is still the same, you are just increasing total numbers.

And as I said earlier: The most toxic hostile environments I have ever found in Ah were LOW number arenas. Particularly EW, where many dolts went bigmouth on "ALL" channel who would have never dared to do that in the LW main.

I can only guess how many new players where instantly driven away by this, as many joined EW first, being the first arena on the list.

[The Fugitive]

I must be having a slow weekend because I still don't see how the density increases in your example.

maybe I'm just using the wrong words. If there are 25 Aholes in the arena, I have a "chance" of running into, or having to deal with some of them. If there are 50 Aholes in the arena I have a much better chance of running into or having to deal with them. See what I mean?

Pick the most annoying guy you know in the game... the guy you squelch as soon as you log in. Even if he only represents 1% of the arena population, if the numbers hold true, 5X the arena population would make you have to squelch 5 guys as soon as you log on. It's still only 1% but now your annoyed by 5 guys instead of 1.

[grizz441]

maybe I'm just using the wrong words. If there are 25 Aholes in the arena, I have a "chance" of running into, or having to deal with some of them. If there are 50 Aholes in the arena I have a much better chance of running into or having to deal with them. See what I mean?

You have no better chance of running into him in the skies.  However if you are referring to having to listen to more bholes talk it up on 200, that's true.  But once again, that channel is detunable.  All the other channels are usually very mild, regardless of numbers.

[The Fugitive]

Well having the radio channels detuned is a bit unrealistic don't you think? You can't tell me you have 200, country, and squad channel all detuned. You can't ask newbies to do that. They have questions, the wish to join in the fun, the wish to work with others to achieve a goal. Unfortunately the numbers I pointed out don't just pertain to 200. The are countrymen I can't stand on each country, I have had squadmates I couldn't stand.

The bad apples are there, and HTC can't do away with them. So he limits the "density" by spreading them out over a number of arenas. If I run out of squelch spots I can still change arenas. That's how he limits the negativity of some players/game play in his game.

Also as far as running into him in the sky, many a time I've run into some of the better sticks and keep going back to that area to try and get another fight....well more like a shot to "pick" them while they are busy  but the same holds true if you keep coming to an area where the same 5 guys do nothing but go for the HO while ganging you. No fun for me so I leave that area, now they are mad because nobody will "fight" them, I'm grumpy because there are no fights. Again negativity.

[Lusche]

Well having the radio channels detuned is a bit unrealistic don't you think? You can't tell me you have 200, country, and squad channel all detuned. You can't ask newbies to do that.

Newbies generally do not know about 200. Usually they start on HELP, then they move over to COUNTRY. It often takes a long time until they discover 200.

And I may point out that's the small number arenas that do have channel 1 "all" enabled...

[grizz441]

The bad apples are there, and HTC can't do away with them. So he limits the "density" by spreading them out over a number of arenas. If I run out of squelch spots I can still change arenas. That's how he limits the negativity of some players/game play in his game.

Who's to say all the 'bad apples' won't find their way into Pink arena leaving it over densified with punks?  There's too many unknowns to make any sound conclusions about the relationship between players and 'arena nastiness'.

[The Fugitive]

I'm sure there are no exact numbers, but you have to admit that by spreading them out or diluting the waters so to speak you have a better chance of missing the negative aspects and running into the more positive aspects.

[Magnus]

So a person could still run into 50 butt heads out of 250 in the one area. Or 50 out of 150...... since the arena has been capped at 7PM EST @ the 150 mark average. You might just got to the different area and find ..... 50 out of 80 .... hmmm.... So I would run into more chances of more butt heads in the lower area.  

[Shuffler]

So a person could still run into 50 butt heads out of 250 in the one area. Or 50 out of 150...... since the arena has been capped at 7PM EST @ the 150 mark average. You might just got to the different area and find ..... 50 out of 80 .... hmmm.... So I would run into more chances of more butt heads in the lower area.  

It seems you don't have to go anywhere to run into one...

[Traveler]

I'm sure there are no exact numbers, but you have to admit that by spreading them out or diluting the waters so to speak you have a better chance of missing the negative aspects and running into the more positive aspects.

are there so many bad apples that HiTech Creations must allow them to subscribe or go out of business if they were turned away?    Isn't bad behavior , just that, bad behavior and should be put out of the game.  When someone starts trouble in a popular crowed bar, they bounce the trouble maker,   they don’t  open a second bar and move half the population to it. 

[RTHolmes]

When someone starts trouble in a popular crowed bar, they bounce the trouble maker, they don’t open a second bar and move half the population to it.

[Babalonian]

Denying?  Exactly who's fault is that?  It's like whining about having season tickets to a sporting event because the matches don't meet your schedule.

Give me a break.

There are means for the individual to fix the problem.  Seems it's too difficult.

Where's my welfare check?
 


wrongway

de·ny  /dɪˈnaɪ/  [dih-nahy]
–verb (used with object), -nied, -ny·ing.
To withhold something from, or refuse to grant a request of.

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I worked 13 hours last friday (58 hours this week) and pulled 12 hours on sunday just so I could enjoy my Saturday at an airshow this weekend.  What did you do to be productive, gainfuly employed, show your support of our troops, and get outside to get some sun and fun this weekend?


Ooookkk...  So far off the mark for only one self-interpretation of a word I used, lol.      Internet anonymity for a good laugh here too on the welfare comment, I'm probabley what you wish most of my generation was, I haven't been unemployed from fulltime in my life for more than two weeks since I was 18, through school and many, what the welfare office would consider, grevious injury and all.  When the sweet day of retirement eventualy comes, dang skippy I'll be asking for where my government check is and blaming your worthless children and grandchildren for being lazy and ungrateful because I will be uncapable anymore of carrying them on my individual back and the few others like me in this country.

And because I'm too busy working all day and too tired to have the patience of spamming my login information until eventualy 20-30 minutes later the one arena that has over a dozen of my squadies online in it to open up, I consider it a denial of service.  Yes I can play, but not with the same guys I always like to play with.  Yes I can find a fight to fight in, but it feels hollow compared to fighting along side you mates who you trust are watching out for you and who trust that you're always watching out for them.  Is this sup-par result and experience, that occurs to me on half of the any given weekday evenings, what I subcribed to this month and went through the effort of launching the game to play?  NO.

Yes, I know there are individual means for one to wait and then join an arena, I'm glad that you proudly admit you have so much of your time to spare and waste.  My problem is that I been waiting at work that past 10-14 hours to play and know that when I get home to request to participate in the one arena that has all my squadies in it and is locked that it will be denied, and with me wishing to go to bed anyways within an hour, I do not have ~20-30 minutes to spare spamming the loging screen and helping fillup the other arena while just attempting to have my intial request honored by HTC's servers.