ENY & Perk Value

[MachFly]

Is there a certain formula which assigns the plane it's ENY and perk value?

I understand that the better the plane is the lower the ENY is and the higher the perk value is. But to what extent? For example what does a plane need to have to earn an ENY of 10 not 15? or what does a plane need to have to each a perk value of 15 not 10? Some of us would say that a plane with an ENY of 5 is better than a plane with the ENY of 15, but better is an opinion. For example; some of us prefer the F4U-1A (ENY 15) over Spit 16 (ENY 5).

[Shuffler]

Yes....


Plane x Skuzzy / HiTech ==

[oakranger]

Yes....


Plane x Skuzzy / HiTech ==

NO NO NO!  It is Plane x Skuzzy / HiTech to the Pyro power =

[Wiley]

Do those formulas come from different versions of the game maybe?

Seriously though, what they're trying to say is, to a certain degree ENY is based on numbers, but there's also a subjective portion to it based on popularity, actual K/D in the arenas over time, and I would imagine just plain out and out opinion by the devs.

Wiley.

[Shuffler]

It is common knowledge that some of the numbers were developed over scotch.

[oakranger]

It is common knowledge that some of the numbers were developed over scotch.

Had to been one of them long days.

Do those formulas come from different versions of the game maybe?

Seriously though, what they're trying to say is, to a certain degree ENY is based on numbers, but there's also a subjective portion to it based on popularity, actual K/D in the arenas over time, and I would imagine just plain out and out opinion by the devs.

Wiley.

Nobody outside of AH office really knows how ENY is set up.  Personally, there need to be a few changes on some of the AC ENY.

[SlapShot]

It is common knowledge that some of the numbers were developed over scotch.

and beef carpaccio.

[Nemisis]

IMO, if we get many more aircraft or a couple more tanks or some tank destroyers, we're going to need a complete overhaul of the ENY.

[Lusche]

Some of us would say that a plane with an ENY of 5 is better than a plane with the ENY of 15, but better is an opinion. For example; some of us prefer the F4U-1A (ENY 15) over Spit 16 (ENY 5).

And so is ENY: Just an opinion. In this case the developer's.

There is no way to base it just on numbers / performance, because in some ways it's like a game of rock, paper & scissors. It may seem easy to quantify a planes strengths & weaknesses, but then you have to weight the different categories - which means you are back to subjectivity.

[JunkyII]

Brewster should be a 15 ENY....

just sayin

[Wiley]

Nobody outside of AH office really knows how ENY is set up.  Personally, there need to be a few changes on some of the AC ENY.

I'd rate a lot of the blue planes as having too high an ENY for their capabilities, and I think probably the 109K4 is the biggest example of too much capability for its ENY.

I think perhaps experience plays a huge factor with some of the planes though.  Most of the 5 ENY stuff is planes a newb can get into and stand a half decent chance in.  If you put most guys who've spent the 3 months they've been subscribed here in a spixteen in a 109K, you're going to get a completely different result than if you put an average guy that's been flying a lot of different aircraft for a couple years in a 109K.

I have a feeling they've kind of tried to 'split the difference' on some of their decisions, so newer people still have some kind of 'easier' planes to fly when ENY goes high, like a Brew or the lower mark Spits.  Some of the planes that have higher ENY because they're arguably harder to use can hang with the late war monsters in somewhat experienced hands.  I'm not talking about the top shelf people here, I mean average, middle of the pack schmucks like me.

Wiley.

[Lusche]

I miss the days when the C.205 was ENY 40... gave me my only 100 perks sortie without rearming ever   

[oakranger]

I miss the days when the C.205 was ENY 40... gave me my only 100 perks sortie without rearming ever   

How many kills was that?

[Lusche]

How many kills was that?

Not as many as you might think... it was only 7 or so, most of them La7's (which had been at ENY 5 at that time), on top of that a mighty perk modifier as my side was greatly outnumbered.

Was a one in a million day when everything came together, very unlikely such a thing will ever happen to me again.

[Crash Orange]

I think perhaps experience plays a huge factor with some of the planes though.  Most of the 5 ENY stuff is planes a newb can get into and stand a half decent chance in.  If you put most guys who've spent the 3 months they've been subscribed here in a spixteen in a 109K, you're going to get a completely different result than if you put an average guy that's been flying a lot of different aircraft for a couple years in a 109K.

That seems to be a part of it, doesn't it? But it shouldn't, it should really be the opposite. After all, if you're outnumbered 3-1, who would you rather have as the 3, three newbies in Spit16s or three veterans in 109K4s?

109K4 is the best example of this, and it's the single plane in the entire set with the most out-of-whack LW ENY value. It should be 8 or maybe 10.