new nickname for browning .50 cals

[Ack-Ack]

Did you even see the first video of the 50s when the pilot strafed the oil tanks, I saw about 20-30 rounds at the most go to it and blow it up. In AH it takes more than it should to blow it up, tested it in offline and it was about a 2-3 second burst from 4 50 cals.

Seriously?  You're really going to make me answer that?  The answer is so glaringly obvious that it would feel like I'm insulting your intelligence by pointing out the obvious.

1) You cannot get a reasonable approximation of how many rounds were fired in those videos, 20 to 30 is just a number range you pulled out of thin air to help shore off a sinking point.

2) Comparing the hardness of the oil tanks and the comparable object in AH, the fuel tanks is, well, useless.  You fail to take into account that you're comparing an object in the real world to an object in the game world with hardness settings set for game play reasons and does not in any way reflect the actual structural integrity of the object in real life.  The fuel tanks were strengthened in game about 7-8 years ago to make them more difficult to destroy.

Another reason I can say the 50s are wrong, I was flying in a pony in the MA, came across a Ki-84, got on his 6, hit him a load of times all over the fuselage, and he didn't catch fire, blow up, or take any damage what so ever (this was about a 2-3 second burst.) As you look in the videos I posted, 50's should as you should know be doing more damage, you should even know that since your flying a 50 cal plane.

All you are describing is someone that has very, very poor fire discipline and is hitting the bandit either beyond or before teh convergence point.  Your description of seeing hits all over the plane just confirms it.  If you were hitting at the convergence, you'd see a smaller, more concentrated impact zone instead of hit sprites all over the plane, which you are not seeing because you're not hitting at the optimal spot. 

As you look in the videos I posted, 50's should as you should know be doing more damage, you should even know that since your flying a 50 cal plane.

From looking at those videos, I can say that they do seem to be representative of the .50 calibers in game.  The irony of you using those videos is that they actually prove that AH has the .50's down pretty good. 

ack-ack

[Nemisis]

Ack-Ack, to give him his due, its not always possible to get a shot at convergance. Sometimes you have to take what you can get.



Thrash, the .50's aren't nerfed. The P-47 is still able to kill with a good burst. Believe me, I was getting vulched by one yesterday.

[hitech]

Trash why don't you post just 1 AH film of your issue. 1 film is worth more words then you can ever speak.

HiTech

[THRASH99]

Trash why don't you post just 1 AH film of your issue. 1 film is worth more words then you can ever speak.

HiTech

It's thrash, I have films, just don't know how to upload them. My friend WING47 has some films of him in a pony and hitting some planes alot if that'll help too.

[Ack-Ack]

upload them to a free host like Mediafire and then paste the link in your post.

ack-ack

[Larry]

He doesn't have to. I already know what it will show. From the looks of his stats it'll show him spraying all over then when he does hit the enemy it will not be where the convergence is set so he'll get a few hit sprites all over the plane and expect it to go down when it shouldnt.

[THRASH99]

upload them to a free host like Mediafire and then paste the link in your post.

ack-ack

Tried multiple times and it failed to load the videos, just gonna have to send it to you Hitech. It usually loads and is able to send, never have had a problem sending it to the support at HTC.

[SlapShot]

I set my convergence from 450 to about 550. I don't open fire till about 600 shows up, open fire, tons of hit sprites, and nothing happens within 100 rounds.    

So what is it ? ... 450 or 550 ? ... or are you setting pairs at different convergence ?

If you are hitting something that far out, and not quite on the optimum convergence, you will need a lot more than 100 rounds ... plus I doubt strongly that you even knew how many rounds you actually fired. I think the 100 amount is only to support your argument.

[Soulyss]

I'd be happy to take a look at the films and offer any advice and/or explanations that come to mind, just email them to trainers@hitechcreations.com.

[SectorNine50]

The 50's are fine.

I fly the B Pony, it only has 4 50's, and it only takes me one well placed burst to take down a plane.

Shoot closer in, I find that beyond 400 the accuracy is just too low to make it worth while.  I have my convergences at 350, personally.  The only time I shoot outside of 400 is when I'm trying to scare the aircraft into a turn.

You may be hitting the plane with 100 rounds, but if those 100 rounds are spread evenly over the entire airframe, you are going to do zero structural damage to it.

[BnZs]

Odd.
Most complain about the .50s being TOO effective in AHII.

[PropHawk]

does anyone notice that out of all the aircraft armament in the game, that the M2 .50 cals seem to make enemies catch fire the most? it happens to me atleast....

thats why i think they should be affectionally known as "candle lighters"

like it, but like Ma Duece better 

[PropHawk]

Last few months I played I flew the A-20 almost exclusively and had absolutely no problem taking down planes with one pass. In fact the first few times I laughed because it seemed so easy. As akak stated its not the guns its you. If you're flying a pony and not shooting at the distance your convergence is set then you're just wasting ammo.

      Please dont whip out the greek fire on this but:
any plane with nose mounted guns has much more concentrated firepower at any range
p.s. my convergence is set at 650 for every plane and I can hit fine at distances between 800 and 0

[BigKev03]

New nickname for the .50 cal????????   Only one name comes to my mind:

THE BIG HURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   


BigKev