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Offline JunkyII

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Going for my EIB again....
« on: August 09, 2010, 07:19:09 AM »
Just passed the PT test after waking up at 3am....time to go do some Land Nav.


Wish me luck!! :rock


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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2010, 07:45:38 AM »
Good Luck EIB is a tough cookie. You got past one tough part (PT Test). Only other hard part is 12 mile forced March. But, as a grunt yer used to that!

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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 08:28:57 AM »
Just passed the PT test after waking up at 3am....time to go do some Land Nav.


Wish me luck!! :rock


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Do they still do land nav the old way--no electronics, just a compass, gridded map, pace count beads, etc?
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2010, 09:11:53 AM »
Do they still do land nav the old way--no electronics, just a compass, gridded map, pace count beads, etc?

Is there any other way to do land nav?
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 11:19:39 AM »
Junky, why is the sky blue?
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 11:38:48 AM »
Junky, dont sweat land nav...easiest task there is. double check your plotting and you'll be fine
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 01:55:59 PM »
Good luck. I know a guy back when I was in the Army that had gone for his. He passed everything but when he did his pat down of an POW, he failed because he didn't find the knife on him. He was that close to passing.
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 03:09:15 PM »
Is there any other way to do land nav?
I'm guessing soldiers in the field  today use gps and naught else, really don't know
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 03:14:42 PM »
Use GPS for work when looking for addresses....when hiking/camping/hunting I only use topo and compass for my travels. Much better that way IMHO.
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 03:37:44 PM »
The way we 13F's do land nav is, we check everyone prior to doing the course for any electronic devices. we still teach land nav the old fashioned way: Compass , map and protractor.
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 11:46:38 PM »
Should have taken Tomcat's advice......plotted wrong on night land nav and didnt make it in time <facepalm>


thats twice now!!! :mad:
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2010, 08:57:33 AM »
Sorry to hear that dude, mebbe 3rd time's a charm :aok

Land-nav fascinates the heck outta me...the declination thing when going from map to real world and back....it fails to sink in. I either add 7 degrees or subtract in my area...but I can't frikkin remember. Do you guys try and make use of pace-counts on hilly terrain, etc?
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2010, 09:46:16 AM »
I tried to do it once and it never would come out correct; no matter where I was; I have a pretty good sense of direction (night or day) and can generally locate where I am on a map pretty easily. Also with the pace count it could be because of where I live and all the hills around here and my parents land that we hunt on but I imagine it would be screwed up royally if I used a pace count.
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2010, 10:02:41 AM »
Sorry to hear that dude, mebbe 3rd time's a charm :aok

Land-nav fascinates the heck outta me...the declination thing when going from map to real world and back....it fails to sink in. I either add 7 degrees or subtract in my area...but I can't frikkin remember. Do you guys try and make use of pace-counts on hilly terrain, etc?

If you're in VA it's most likely 7 degrees West, but they do change over time.  I just checked because I thought mine in southern VA was around 7 but it's actually 8.5 or 9 degrees West.  To find True North with a West declination you have to add the degrees, with an East declination you have to subtract.

Junky.....how did you goof up on plotting at night?  Maybe some folks around here can help you before you try it again.
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Re: Going for my EIB again....
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2010, 10:47:42 AM »
We always use the standard Lensatic compass instead of the M2. The M2 you have declinate/orientate to your area. They usually have a compass
 "zeroing" point or orientating point set up prior to starting the task. With the protractors you also have to look at how they are cut. What I mean is, you look at the 1/50,000th scale(common military map scale) and you check to see if the triangle is evenly cut. If is not it can throw you off big time especially for the non -Artillery types who use degrees instead of mils. (17.7777777777 or 17.78 Mils per degree) Mils is way more accurate. It happens Junky. I am no pro when it comes to being a stick in Aces but I do know land nav.
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