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This Mornings Arena Caps
« on: August 12, 2010, 12:06:03 AM »
I could not sleep, so I logged in here and then went the arena for a few quick flights at 0020 Eastern.

The late war arenas were 140/100 Orange and 98/150 blue.  Why at such a late hour and with less than 250 players wanting to fly late war are we still being forced into two arenas?  I was curious as to when the arena balance would shift, so I kept trying trying.... 130/100, 97/150...  120/100, 95/150...  110/100, 92/150.... then finally 98/100, 95/150.  45 minutes for this transition.

I do not get the forced balance when early and mid war were capable of up to 350 each but had only 5 and 12 players respectively.  Two WW1 with 6/100 and 0/100, AvA 1/200, Dueling 40/200, and 0/650 0/650 special event arenas. The hint I would take away from this is that customer wants do not match HTC desires.  Players want to fly late war and HTC resources might need balancing, not the players.

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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 12:10:05 AM »
I do not get the forced balance when early and mid war were capable of up to 350 each but had only 5 and 12 players respectively.  Two WW1 with 6/100 and 0/100, AvA 1/200, Dueling 40/200, and 0/650 0/650 special event arenas. The hint I would take away from this is that customer wants do not match HTC desires.  Players want to fly late war and HTC resources might need balancing, not the players.

Those arenas have nothing to do with LW arena caps and do not use any resources in that regard.

(And by the way, at times the SEA has more players than each LW arena ;) )
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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 12:15:15 AM »
Those arenas have nothing to do with LW arena caps and do not use any resources in that regard.

(And by the way, at times the SEA has more players than each LW arena ;) )

Sure they do.  On one hand HTC is OK with up to 350 people in one arena with no choice to split.  And in the case of LW, the plan is, "we must force them to split" even when their total numbers are less than 250.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2010, 12:16:46 AM »
Sure they do.  On one hand HTC is OK with up to 350 people in one arena with no choice to split.  And in the case of LW, the plan is, "we must force them to split" even when there total numbers are less than 250.

There are never more than a handful of people in those arenas you mentioned so why does it even matter what the displayed max number is?  If those arenas accrued hundreds of players/night, don't you think it would be capped just the same?

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2010, 12:18:57 AM »
Both LW caps are influenced only by each other, nothing else. If there are 5, or 50 or 100 players in EW doesn't matter at all for them.
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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2010, 12:25:02 AM »
Both LW caps are influenced only by each other, nothing else. If there are 5, or 50 or 100 players in EW doesn't matter at all for them.

I'm just using the other arenas to illustrate that the servers are capable of much more.  I'm not talking about 800 like on TT Tueday.  I'm just asking why force it below 200 or 250 caps that late at night.  Who cares if all LW players that late are in one arena?

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2010, 12:37:07 AM »
I'm just using the other arenas to illustrate that the servers are capable of much more.  I'm not talking about 800 like on TT Tueday.  I'm just asking why force it below 200 or 250 caps that late at night.  Who cares if all LW players that late are in one arena?

It's not about server resources, it's a kind of gameplay environment decision. You might do search for arena split and/or arena cap to find one of the myriad threads about it.
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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 12:43:32 AM »
There are never more than a handful of people in those arenas

And yet another hint......

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 12:48:22 AM »
It's not about server resources, it's a kind of gameplay environment decision. You might do search for arena split and/or arena cap to find one of the myriad threads about it.

It is about server resources to me.  Most hours of the day the caps are 200-300 and the environemt is deemed fine.  I'm just confused as to why that changes late night of all times.

I have been around a long time sir and have read almost most all of them.  I still find it silly  :)

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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 12:55:23 AM »
Now at 0150 Eastern the LW arenas are 95/400 and 45/400.

Back to my OP, resources need balancing at times, not players.

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2010, 01:19:13 AM »
I think it was Snailman who had a decent fix idea for late caps.  It was combining the arenas to a Titanic Tues. type map for a certain period late at night (U.S. time), then switching back to the two arenas prior to peak hours. 

Seems reasonable to me.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2010, 09:09:27 AM »
Now at 0150 Eastern the LW arenas are 95/400 and 45/400.

Back to my OP, resources need balancing at times, not players.

No, you're not getting it.  Regardless of what it is to you, Hitech (I believe it was) once said that the server utilization is running only a few percent at peak times no matter how many players are in the arena. 

It's SOLELY a result of game play considerations.

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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2010, 09:57:18 AM »
So what is the complaint. You don't like numbers?/


I thought you logged on to fly..... why all of a sudden did you start watching numbers? You could have been flying.
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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2010, 10:00:04 AM »
You could just play in Blue :noid
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Re: This Mornings Arena Caps
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2010, 12:18:41 PM »
You could just play in Blue :noid

Or instead of wasting your time clicking buttons and reading number, you could just go to sleep and log on at 7am to get your spot in LWOrange the next day.
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