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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #105 on: August 16, 2010, 07:11:49 AM »
IT would be cool if someone made a video of aces high planes that was like one of those top 10 shows. It could be based on a poll and numbers of kills per death or something like that.
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #106 on: August 16, 2010, 07:25:26 AM »
I think it's interesting that people are rating 6x.50cals so highly for armament.  Not that I think they are inadequate but 7/10 is probably a little too high.  I'd give that loadout a 5/10. It's not bad at all but it's not great either.  

"Armament" doesn't mean pure firepower, in which case, yes, the Ma Deuce is only average. The quality also includes ballistics, muzzle-velocity, etc. When you consider the Brownings are about as close to point-and-click weaponry as you have in the game, then yes, they ARE that good.

Compare the German cannon where they may be more powerful, but hitting anything requires prayer and sacrificing a couple sheep.
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #107 on: August 16, 2010, 01:17:50 PM »
Saxman, the Mg151/20's aren't as terrible as people seem to feel. They just take some adjustment time. Oh sure, they're not really up to hitting a D800 target, but the .50's aren't world beaters at that range either. At the furthest, I can hit a manuvering target at D600, and a non manuvering target at D800 with a little luck.
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #108 on: August 16, 2010, 01:46:59 PM »
Saxman, the Mg151/20's aren't as terrible as people seem to feel. They just take some adjustment time. Oh sure, they're not really up to hitting a D800 target, but the .50's aren't world beaters at that range either. At the furthest, I can hit a manuvering target at D600, and a non manuvering target at D800 with a little luck.

The guns on German planes are a little tougher to use than the M2, mostly in part due to the lower muzzle velocity of the German guns and they cannot 'reach out and touch you' at the ranges the M2 can.  Last night took out 2 P-51s that both came screaming down on me for the bounce, got both on the overshoot, one at 800 yards and the 2nd at 1000yards.  The only thing that prevents more kills at that those ranges with the M2 isn't the gun itself, it's the gunnery skill of the pilot that is the limiting factor. 


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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #109 on: August 16, 2010, 01:50:55 PM »
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #110 on: August 16, 2010, 01:54:52 PM »
IT would be cool if someone made a video of aces high planes that was like one of those top 10 shows. It could be based on a poll and numbers of kills per death or something like that.
Problem being is that the perk rides would take top dog...looking at the stats the 262 and Tempest have the highest K/D's in at 6. Then the 163 is at 4, the rest are the F4U's around 2, etc.
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #111 on: August 16, 2010, 01:59:39 PM »
While that is true Ack-Ack, I'm simply saying that the M2 isn't the buzz saw it is at D200. While it is entirely capable of killing at those ranges, its still not as hard hitting as it would be at D350.
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #112 on: August 16, 2010, 02:28:02 PM »
While that is true Ack-Ack, I'm simply saying that the M2 isn't the buzz saw it is at D200. While it is entirely capable of killing at those ranges, its still not as hard hitting as it would be at D350.

An M2 isn't a buzz saw at D200?  There is hardly a plane in the game that could survive a concentrated burst (hitting at convergence) of .50 calibers at 200 yards.  A P-38 will just shred things at that close range and that's just 4x .50 cals and imagine the getting hit by 8x .50 cals from a Thunderbolt.


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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2010, 02:36:25 PM »
While that is true Ack-Ack, I'm simply saying that the M2 isn't the buzz saw it is at D200. While it is entirely capable of killing at those ranges, its still not as hard hitting as it would be at D350.

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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2010, 02:46:57 PM »
Masherbrum, all I'm saying is that the U.S. .50 isn't a deathstar lazer. I love the browning, its a great gun with great balistics and stopping power, but its not like it makes the Mg151 look like a pile of crap either.
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2010, 02:48:26 PM »
I'd have to agree with AckAck here on gunnery skill Vs guns...there are guys here that can make you wonder what the heck just happened after they take you down with a hurri or spit 1......it all comes down to your convergence and hitting at it, if all your bullets hit at the convergence point it is going to be devistating ...most of the the time guys aren't hitting at their convergence setting...you must also bear in mind that just because you see D400 doesn't mean you are hitting at that (if this is your convergence) the con could be anywhere between D201 and D599.

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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2010, 03:19:49 PM »
An M2 isn't a buzz saw at D200?  There is hardly a plane in the game that could survive a concentrated burst (hitting at convergence) of .50 calibers at 200 yards.  A P-38 will just shred things at that close range and that's just 4x .50 cals and imagine the getting hit by 8x .50 cals from a Thunderbolt.


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I agree,,,I have reset all my guns to 300 on my jugs and at that range it will rip up anything that gets in front of it,, just as well as any other gun in the game,, plus the fact that i have 3400 of them does not hurt anything either
I figured it once , if I remember correctly it puts 118 bullets out every second,, thats as much of a "lead" lazer as there is!
 thats why I fly it,  it can kill anything that gets in front of it!  now getting something in front of it is not always so easy but if you like to b-n-z it cuts like a hot knife thru butter!
One of my other favorites is the yak 9, the 37 MM gun is great if you hit someone with it but at 37 rounds, you have to hit them pretty quick or your out of ammo!
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2010, 03:34:12 PM »
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #118 on: August 16, 2010, 04:28:26 PM »
No Ack-Ack, you misunderstand. It is a buzzsaw at 200 yds, not at long range. Its still hard hitting, your just not going to shear the wing off a 190 with a 1/2 sec burst.


And Ack-Ack, is the lack of convergance issues one of the reasons you fly the P-38?
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Re: Ace's High II Top Ten Fighter's
« Reply #119 on: August 16, 2010, 04:32:45 PM »
No Ack-Ack, you misunderstand. It is a buzzsaw at 200 yds, not at long range. Its still hard hitting, your just not going to shear the wing off a 190 with a 1/2 sec burst.


And Ack-Ack, is the lack of convergance issues one of the reasons you fly the P-38?

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