New radar = boring ...bring back old radar

[Lusche]

isn't this more a wish than a general topic since we've all accepted the new dar

We did?

[--)SF----]

Bottom line, old dar was way better. period.

[SEseph]

We did?

I mean the fact it's here. It doesn't mean we all like it. (me) sorry forr confusion

[Ping]

I am not a sneak and snatch nor a fan of the NOE attacks, Yet I will say that I do prefer the DAR of old.

I have been around since the early days of WB and CK so I do remember problems of old.

This new arrangement in my mind takes away from strategic planning, as well as defense.

YMMV, but mine is the only one that counts 

[CAP1]

Bottom line, old dar was way better. period.

how so? what made it better?

[fuzeman]

The game will always change, it has to to stay current. I like the game alot and therefore adapt to every change that comes.

[CAP1]

The game will always change, it has to to stay current. I like the game alot and therefore adapt to every change that comes.

same here.

 like others have said, the only thing that's changed to the worse, is the players......timid flying(of which i'm occasionally guilty of), fighting safe(such as picking, never engaging without clear and distinct advantage), and score mongering.

 i know someone's gonna say something like "it's their $14.95, they can play how they want"....but really.......you can do offline what some of these guys do online, and do it for free.
 i was talking to a friend(whom i'm trying to get to join eventually) and mentioned the runners i encountered the other day and evening.....attack from high and fast, single turn, then run home or to friends, as if they were trying to avoid a fight. his reaction was "isn't the point of a combat game to fight?", then he went back to work laughing.

[Lusche]

The game will always change, it has to to stay current. I like the game alot and therefore adapt to every change that comes.

I'm not against changes, I like them. I liked many of them, some were very reasonable from a gameplay point of view and did work out fine (for example the increase of ack on airfields years ago). Other just add variety, enhance possibilities and so on. The new towns are great. Having to learn new base layouts is great, keeps it interesting.

But that doesn't mean every change is reasonable, helpful for gameplay or even just works as intended, just because it's a change.

[Lusche]

same here.

 like others have said, the only thing that's changed to the worse, is the players......timid flying(of which i'm occasionally guilty of), fighting safe(such as picking, never engaging without clear and distinct advantage), and score mongering.

If you call it timid when I do not fight the over red horde over my own  as much as I used to do, because every of that 30+ guys can see my lone dot taking off ... yes then I'm timid.
And surely it's totaly unrelated to the new dar, which provides them with all that info.


I'm freakin sick about all that assumptions, generalizations and all that "timid & ballz" talk.

[CAP1]

If you call it timid when I do not fight the over red horde over my own  as much as I used to do, because every of that 30+ guys can see my lone dot taking off ... yes then I'm timid.
And surely it's totaly unrelated to the new dar, which provides them with all that info.

no sir. timid to me is like the corsair the other night that had a clear speed and alt advantage over me, as i had been fighting a p47, going downhill. as soon as the jug died, i spotted the corsair, 2.5 out and above me.......when i turned into him, he pointed his nose up, and climbed back to nearly 20k, and followed me.
 i was alone. no squaddies in the arena, no friendlies up there with me. it would've been a 1-1 to his advantage.

 or the jug that comes at me, while i'm flying straight n level pretending i don't see him. i do a hard break turn to the left, roll slightly, and accidentally land on his six(i'm serious too). i tagged him, he "extended", making excuses as to why he did.

 or the spit9 that merges co-alt at 19k, makes one turn, then noses down, and dives towards home. him, i'd have followed, and vulched his arse on landing, just 'cause he pissed me off. i didn't have enough gas though.

 that's timid to me.

dropping into a horde of 30+? that's just crazy talk there.  

and yes, it is unrelated to the new dar....that's my point. with or without it, the only thing that's changing to the worse, is the players. htc is doing a friggin GREAT job trying to appease all of us.

[Lusche]

and yes, it is unrelated to the new dar....

And that's were you a wrong. I pointed out what impact the new dar settings do have, and why. And which they do have not (NOE).

If new dar settings had no impact on gameplay, there would have been no reason to change them anyway?

[Money]

And that's were you a wrong. I pointed out what impact the new dar settings do have, and why. And which they do have not (NOE).

If new dar settings had no impact on gameplay, there would have been no reason to change them anyway?

 

[Ack-Ack]

I like the NOE limit but the detection radius of the radars would be better back to how it used to be instead of the increased radius we have now.

ack-ack

[KTM520guy]

Every gameplay change there has been to promote the giant furball and discourage anything else. That's what the vocal minority demand and HTC agrees. One thing is certain, these changes are here to stay we just have to deal with it. squeakin' and moanin' on the bbs wont bring anything back. Aces High is the only game in town and that's OK. I'll keep logging in untill I'm to old or my PC dies wich ever comes first. My main wish right now is for higher frame rate. Some days I just can't fight near other people. 

[Ack-Ack]

Every gameplay change there has been to promote the giant furball and discourage anything else. That's what the vocal minority demand and HTC agrees.

Really?  Are you that clueless?   

The recent changes to the NOE altitude limit and radar range detection had nothing to do with customer input, HiTech has already stated that. 

ack-ack