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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2010, 11:21:47 PM »
I don't think that any 190's were in the Siege of Malta or Operation Pedestal.

Things are not finalized yet.  A very tentative list is:

Hurri IIC, Spit V, Seafire II, Marlet (F4F), Mosquito, Liberator, Boston III
109F, C.202 and/or C.205, 110C, Ju 88, Ju 87

Curious as to why the Mossie Brooke?  Think they had one NF II on Malta, but the Mossie was never much of an MTO player.
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2010, 12:51:02 AM »
Fencer has them listed as 248 and 252 Sqn.  I've seen references to 248 being at Malta and participating in portions of Operation Pedestal around August, 1942.  Not sure about 252.

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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2010, 01:49:56 AM »
Fencer has them listed as 248 and 252 Sqn.  I've seen references to 248 being at Malta and participating in portions of Operation Pedestal around August, 1942.  Not sure about 252.

252 Were Beaufighters. Oh to have Beaufighters for that one :)   First Mossie on Malta was a Mk II on December 27, 1942 with 23 Squadron.

This is the OOB for Malta in October 42, after Pedestal.  They had 4 Liberators flown in special for Pedestal and Park had roughly 250 birds with about half being Spitfires.  Appears there were some RAF Marauders about though :)
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2010, 01:59:54 AM »
Ah, yes, Beaufighters in the Mediterranian.  :aok

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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2010, 03:43:22 PM »
I don't think that any 190's were in the Siege of Malta or Operation Pedestal.

Things are not finalized yet.  A very tentative list is:

Hurri IIC, Spit V, Seafire II, Marlet (F4F), Mosquito, Liberator, Boston III
109F, C.202 and/or C.205, 110C, Ju 88, Ju 87

I SMELL A RAT!  :huh  (No 190A-5 stretch, no Hurri-II stretch then)

They were mostly Hurri Is in malta, resuplied with very very few IIcs, mostly Spit Vs were all they had left flying outa Malta in 42.  Should be Hurri Is and Spit Vs from Malta, unless you're thinking about adding a full squadron of 190A-5s along with each squadron of Hurri-IIcs.   :devil
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2010, 03:46:18 PM »
Fear the Ju-88s!

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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2010, 05:28:24 PM »
I SMELL A RAT!  :huh  (No 190A-5 stretch, no Hurri-II stretch then)

They were mostly Hurri Is in malta, resuplied with very very few IIcs, mostly Spit Vs were all they had left flying outa Malta in 42.  Should be Hurri Is and Spit Vs from Malta, unless you're thinking about adding a full squadron of 190A-5s along with each squadron of Hurri-IIcs.   :devil

I believe the man said "tentative".  The original "Fire Over Malta" had Hurricane IICs.
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2010, 06:32:36 PM »
Sign me up for No. 830 sqd. please.  :D see Guppys post  :banana:
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2010, 06:36:13 PM »
Oooh, I can't decide between the lovely Boston III, the C.2s, and the 110C. Sorry Strokes, I've put my time in on the Mossie, and I wish to never fly her against 109s again.
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2010, 12:32:31 PM »
Looks great! got any idea as to when this will be put into action?
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2010, 12:44:52 PM »
Seems we're bending history a bit here. Allies get mossie and hurii IIC?


I demand teh 190A5 an' teh 109G2'z  :noid!!!!!

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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2010, 04:47:24 PM »
Seems we're bending history a bit here. Allies get mossie and hurii IIC?


I demand teh 190A5 an' teh 109G2'z  :noid!!!!!



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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2010, 04:59:32 PM »
We are still doing research, folks.  If planes end up in the setup once we are done, rest assured that they will be in there either because they were actually there or because they are the best substitute for a plane that was actually there.

Except we'll put in the 109G-14, the 109K-4, the 190D-9, the Me 262, and Tiger tanks in an effort to pacify Nemesis.  ;)

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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2010, 10:56:22 PM »
We are still doing research, folks.  If planes end up in the setup once we are done, rest assured that they will be in there either because they were actually there or because they are the best substitute for a plane that was actually there.

Except we'll put in the 109G-14, the 109K-4, the 190D-9, the Me 262, and Tiger tanks in an effort to pacify Nemesis.  ;)


lol  :rofl. 109G-2, 190A5, 262, and Tiger will suffice. Oh, and if you could field mod my tiger to have an additional 150mm fronal armor, replace its current engine with that of the 262, and swap out the KwK 36 L'43 for a KwK 43 L'71, then that would be great  :D.

Only reason I asked is that since the first mossie arrived in december of '42, and the 109G2 saw a bit of use in '42, and that it isn't TOO great of a stretch to sub a 190A5 for a 190A1.
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Re: Early war set-up
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2010, 11:44:21 PM »
Only reason I asked is that since the first mossie arrived in december of '42, and the 109G2 saw a bit of use in '42, and that it isn't TOO great of a stretch to sub a 190A5 for a 190A1.

Did the same guy who wrote that... write this?

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There does seem to be some issues in implementation of scenarios though. This could be a perceived issue, caused by the substitutions for planes and GV's we don't have.

The mossie was in the original writeup I did (back in 2008) as a substitute for the Beaufighter.  It is out of the OOB at this time.  IF we get the Beaufighter before the event runs, we will look at adding it.

We are merging Nefari's "Fire over Malta" with a new scenario based around the Pedestal Convoy of August 1942... a 3 day battle coincidently.

There were no 190As involved in the fighting in July and August 1942 over Malta and Sicily.

The planes we are looking at substitutes for are the Fairy Fulmer, the Wellington and the Sea Hurricane (with and without cannons).  The Axis are good to go with their planeset, although some C79s and HE111s would be a nice addition if they show up.

I am curious if people would consider flying the Hurricane IIC from carriers with the difficulty in landing without a tail hook.

As always thanks for the interest.

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