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Offline Wolfala

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #195 on: October 25, 2010, 11:17:30 AM »
  -Let me put it this way: If Hitech claims he doesn't remember a thread titled "FW-190 veteran experience" or "FW-190 combat veteran experience", in or around 2005, that had a FW-190A Western Front Ace making statements through a relative (describing how he downthrottled and shot down a P-51D on his tail in two 360° turns on the deck), then he is a bald-face liar...

  "I feared no other aircraft in my FW-190A-8". Remember that Hitech?

  Since he remembers it, he probably remembers deleting it too, while we are at it...

  I find his prudent silence on this issue very interesting...

   Gaston

   

 
Gaston is thus revealed as nothing more than a ****ing ticking timebomb bi-polar nerd with more accounts than a social life would permit, just waiting for the proper situation to explode. Everyone is missing "your point" because you can't form one properly. Listen, ok? Brush your hair off your entended forehead, whipe that sweat off your unibrow, and look
in the mirror. You're a mongoloid.


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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #196 on: October 25, 2010, 11:36:41 AM »
Be nice guys. Gaston can't remember the thread either  :D  and Gaston's special needs won't be met by insults.  :old:

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #197 on: October 25, 2010, 12:57:02 PM »

I would love to understand your motivation. Why have you particularly chosen to champion the Fw 190?



It's not about the Focke Wulf or any other plane.  Gaston's only intent is to show how his game is the one that is accurately modeled while Aces High, IL 2 or any other flight sim is not modeled correctly and inherently flawed because these games take physics into account in the flight models.  If you've seen Gaston's pen and paper game (he posted the link in the Ubi thread) you can see why his game isn't flying off the shelves.

Basically, he's a failed game designer that made a terrible game and is trying to show how in fact he's a great game designer/developer and he made a great game.


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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #198 on: October 25, 2010, 01:51:23 PM »
It's not about the Focke Wulf or any other plane.  Gaston's only intent is to show how his game is the one that is accurately modeled while Aces High, IL 2 or any other flight sim is not modeled correctly and inherently flawed because these games take physics into account in the flight models.  If you've seen Gaston's pen and paper game (he posted the link in the Ubi thread) you can see why his game isn't flying off the shelves.

Basically, he's a failed game designer that made a terrible game and is trying to show how in fact he's a great game designer/developer and he made a great game.


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got links for his game?

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #199 on: October 25, 2010, 02:30:08 PM »
Another one of Gaston's gems (this one posted on the Ubi forums).

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"Autorotation" is exactly as the text was in the magazine: It is still on newstands now marked "display until November 1st"...

It is not a translation by me, but the pilot did likely speak in Japanese...

I have heard Robert Jonhson speak of autorotation for the P-47D, which is a similar-looking aircraft... I took it to mean the nose yaws opposite from the bank side as you implement the bank, as opposed to if it was the banking to the same side, which would then be a good thing: It clearly was meant as an abnormality, and may have no relation to the Japanese N1K1 issue anyway...

This to me explains why R. Johnson sometimes banked opposite his target's bank, especially to the right if the target banked left: A right bank might have turned him towards the left-going aircraft as he rolled 270° (but maybe he just wanted to avoid the "mushing" delay of a reversal, as he described himself, by carrying on a full roll circle in case the enemy reversed)...

I am also pretty sure that the P-47D, in its Razorback version at least, banked a bit slower to left and turned slightly slower to right... At least I thought it serious enough in several accounts to incorporate this in my simulation... The P-47D is one of the hardest WWII fighters out there to pin down on the "character" issue, and I don't claim to have everything right in my game...

another gem.

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Another example of why any simulation designer should drop math "predictiveness", except for very narrow areas, if the "big" picture is to be even remotely relevant:

I know of one Ki-61-Ib pilot account describing how this supposedly slow-climber could out-zoom anything the US had until the P-38 was encountered, to the Ki-61's pilot's great shock... He described he could out-zoom the F6F easily and, in his words, "even the F4U was inferior to my Ki-61 in zoom, but with the P-38 I found myself in a predicament I had never faced before, as it stayed behind me even in the steepest climb as I tried to escape..."


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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #200 on: October 25, 2010, 02:46:20 PM »
got links for his game?

The link was posted in either this thread or in the last Gaston thread, it's basically a pen and paper board game.  For some added laughs, you should do a search for Gaston's "Rapier and Saber" flight model theory on these boards (think he posted it about a year ago).

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #201 on: February 28, 2011, 07:06:12 PM »
Guys - I didn't realize that the Gaston virus had infected other threads than WWIIaircraft.  what a piece of work!
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Guys - I didn't realize that the Gaston virus had infected other threads than WWIIaircraft.  what a piece of work!

Your Bert Marshall connection the one I'm thinking of drgondog?  It explains the ID anyway :)
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Your Bert Marshall connection the one I'm thinking of drgondog?  It explains the ID anyway :)

Bert Wilder Marshall, Jr is my father..
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Guys - I didn't realize that the Gaston virus had infected other threads than WWIIaircraft.  what a piece of work!

He is at The Great Planes board now.http://warbirdsforum.com/index.php

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Dragons and Bulldogs.  Had to be :)
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Dragons and Bulldogs.  Had to be :)

Good guess.  I got that nickname some 45 years ago in Cherry Point, NC

The book title, however, was a play on the squadron nicknames "Angels=358FS, Bulldogs =354FS and Dragons=357FS".  I am just now finishing Volume I of a II volume set on the 355th from its inception through last year.

The 358FS in their infinite wisdom changed from Angels to Lobos in Vietnam era but the 354 and 357FS have kept their WWII squadron names and they have remained intact through Korea and Vietnam and Iraqi Freedom and Afghanistan. 

Have been flying 'Hogs for last 30 years and under constant deployment cycles a squadron at a time.
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He is at The Great Planes board now.http://warbirdsforum.com/index.php

 :lol Thanks for the link  :aok
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