Real life encounters of the FLanker vs Eagle

[SgtPappy]

During my reading, I stumbled across this page describing mock battles between Su-27s and F-15s in 1992: Weapons and Technology: Su-27 vs F-15 which states:

The scheme of the mock fight was very simple. A Sukhoi was supposed to fly behind a US jet, and the planes were supposed to switch places with one another. A US plane attempted to fly away from the Russian jet, but the Russian pilot caught up with the F-15 very easily.

The planes switched places, and the Su-27 flew away from the F-15 making a turn and gaining altitude. The Russian jet found itself behind the American fighter a couple of minutes later. The F-15 pilot lost the Russian aircraft out of sight and could not escape from it afterwards: the Russian pilot was keeping the F-15 covered.

The site also gives a very brief statement about another mock battle in the year 2000, but I couldn't find anything on the internet about this sortie.

Now very little detail here is given on RADAR restrictions (if any), fuel load, external stores/weapons. However, how would an F-15 fair in a guns battle with an Su-27?

I suppose the higher TWR of the F-15 helps it in the vertical? But Kharschevsky after all, points out that the Flanker's take-off run is shorter and easier which suggests that the Su-27 has better straight line acceleration.

[Slash27]

Flanker would take the Eagle in a gun battle would be my guess, all things being equal. A guess based on my assumptions and limited knowledge of real world aircraft.

[Pigslilspaz]

also matters about pilot skill, just sayin

[CHAPPY]

missile dependant American aircraft.

[SgtPappy]

I'm thinking the Flanker would take the Eagle in the guns too, since everything out there suggests that its maneuverability is superior. But as many of us know, turning alone doesn't always win battles.

I'm sure there is something Eagle pilots can exploit, and as mentioned, pilots matter. Sometime last year, I heard an account of an F-16 pilot who states much of USAF fighter training consists of BVR fights. I assume the Eagle pilots were not as adept at the dogfight as USN or Russian pilots.

But does anyone have any information on the 2000 mock battle between the F-15s and Su-27s? There's nothing I can find on this 'battle'.

[SgtPappy]

I'm thinking the Flanker would take the Eagle in the guns too, since everything out there suggests that its maneuverability is superior. But as many of us know, turning alone doesn't always win battles.

I'm sure there is something Eagle pilots can exploit, and as mentioned, pilots matter. Sometime last year, I heard an account of an F-16 pilot who states much of USAF fighter training consists of BVR fights. I assume the Eagle pilots were not as adept at the dogfight as USN or Russian pilots.

But does anyone have any information on the 2000 mock battle between the F-15s and Su-27s? There's nothing I can find on this 'battle'.

[SgtPappy]

I'm thinking the Flanker would take the Eagle in the guns too, since everything out there suggests that its maneuverability is superior. But as many of us know, turning alone doesn't always win battles.

I'm sure there is something Eagle pilots can exploit, and as mentioned, pilots matter. Sometime last year, I heard an account of an F-16 pilot who states much of USAF fighter training consists of BVR fights. I assume the Eagle pilots were not as adept at the dogfight as USN or Russian pilots.

But does anyone have any information on the 2000 mock battle between the F-15s and Su-27s? There's nothing I can find on this 'battle'.

[SgtPappy]

I'm thinking the Flanker would take the Eagle in the guns too, since everything out there suggests that its maneuverability is superior. But as many of us know, turning alone doesn't always win battles.

I'm sure there is something Eagle pilots can exploit, and as mentioned, pilots matter. Sometime last year, I heard an account of an F-16 pilot who states much of USAF fighter training consists of BVR fights. I assume the Eagle pilots were not as adept at the dogfight as USN or Russian pilots.

But does anyone have any information on the 2000 mock battle between the F-15s and Su-27s? There's nothing I can find on this 'battle'.

[KgB]

We heard you the first time

[Tupac]

The elusive triple post.

[SgtPappy]

Woops.

[Pigslilspaz]

The elusive quadruple post.

fixed 

[Ack-Ack]

I'd rather hear eagl's opinion, he used to fly one after all.

ack-ack

[Slash27]

I'd rather hear eagl's opinion, he used to fly one after all.

ack-ack

[TonyJoey]

missile dependant American aircraft.

Yea, with a 104:0 Kill ratio in Eagle, and 74:0 in Viper I think they're holding they're own