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« on: August 28, 2001, 01:17:00 PM »
Is 5 GHZ far off?http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1525

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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2001, 05:48:00 PM »
every 18 months speed doubles...


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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2001, 07:08:00 PM »
Anandtech also has an article up about the 2 ghz P4s.  Not surprisingly the Athlon still wins most of the benchmarks, but the majority of computer users only look at clock speed...

On the plus side Intel is finally releasing the 478 pin processors.  That's a good thing for future upgradability.

I'm still waiting for the release of AMDs Athlon 4 desktop CPUs paired with Nvidia's nForce to decide what platform is best.

It's going to be an interesting Q4 for sure.  :)

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2001, 08:28:00 PM »
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every 18 months speed doubles...


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So that means 8 years from now the desktop PC will average 64 GHZ!  
   :cool:

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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2001, 08:35:00 PM »
Our roadmap is 10 GHz by 2005.

3 GHz will be pretty easy... beyond that we're not sure exactly what we are going to do.

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2001, 08:41:00 PM »
DejaVu-

     Are you at Ronler Acres, possibly the Aloha site?  I spent a few years at each as a contractor.

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2001, 08:43:00 PM »
Yep.. Ronler Acres.. was at Aloha until D1B was built.  Moved over to Ronler in 96.

What company were you with?

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2001, 09:16:00 PM »
I worked for VWR Scientific, the company that delivers all the disposable cleanroom gaments.  I actually was the "find it and get it" guy for about a year at Ronler before I moved to LA.  I miss that site, and the people at it.  I worked in and around the intel sites in Hillsboro/Aloha for about 5 years.  I started back at Aloha before they closed FAB4.  They don't build 'em like that anymore...
     Were you familiar with any of the chemical engineering guys?  Those were the people I came to be most familiar with (Skip Friesen and Glen McWhirter), but I knew a lot of people from a lot of areas.  Usually people charged with finding out where to get strange objects they couldnt find anywhere else...

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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2001, 01:28:00 PM »
Jihad look back over the development of the pc +)


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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2001, 04:04:00 PM »
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every 18 months speed doubles...

This is a very common rule.  Anyone know who the "law" is named after?

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2001, 05:16:00 PM »
I used to know it damnut!!  But alas I have forgotten...


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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2001, 06:16:00 PM »
Fatty's Mom???

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2001, 06:23:00 PM »
moores law and it has held for thirty years

when i went to college in 1997 fastest computer available was 266 mhz, now 2 ghz  :)

4 years ~ 48 months = 2.66 cycles

266*2^2.66=1700 mhz

we're actually still beating it by a bit  :)

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2001, 06:01:00 PM »
Hey, what would be the starting salary for a EE guy?  I was thinking about doing EE in college.

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2001, 01:52:00 AM »
Hey DejaVu, have you looked into some of the research on crystaline nanotubules yet?  The plan is to build single electron switches by basically allowing tunneling between adjacent cells.  To be frank I never have fully got a handle on electron tunneling concepts so it seems kind of like a shot in the dark attempt in my mind, but maybe you see something there...  :)

I'm guessing your research at this time primarily involves SOI techniques and high-K dielectrics.  What are you guys looking into at this point?  10 Ghz seems to be a pretty lofty goal with current technologies.  5 Ghz should be easy enough with the P4 design, but that means the ALUs are going to be running at 10 Ghz, which ought to be interesting.

I don't think Moore's law is going to hold much longer.  My opinion is that the power dissipation combined with smaller and smaller transistor sizes is going to be a very large problem, especially considering the current trend in increasing transistor count dramatically for additional cache memory etc.  One thing is for sure, heatsink design is going to have to improve.

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Rendar, EE salaries depend highly on where and who you work for.  In Oregon $45,000 - $70,000 is about the average, but some very senior guys can make 1/4 mil a year with the stock options and benefits.  I definately wouldn't suggest taking EE in college if you are just doing it for the money.  It's HARD work.  After your first year and a half you have no real life to speak of.  

I'll be going into my final year at the end of this month.  (Oregon State University) Last year I spent about 6 - 10 hours PER DAY between studying, class, and working near the end of the term.  If you do take EE you are going to discover just how large a field it is and how hopelessly little you can hope to learn in 5 or even 8 years.  You really have to specialize in one area and try to learn all you can there.

Last year I took classes dealing with:

Electrical and magnetic fields
Digital Circuit design
Analog Circuit design
Microprocessor Archetechture
Wave propagation and transmission lines
Semiconductor materials
Electric motors and transformers
Thermodynamics
Anthropology ( LOL, it's a requirement.  I guess it's supposed to improve your attitude.  :D )

You can see just how much they cover in just one year, and all of it requires pretty intense math and computer skills.  (Except anthropology.  ;) )  Once you get used to doing that much math it's actually pretty interesting, and it certainly makes you appreciate just what's been achieved in the past 100 years or so in Electronics.

If you want to know more about OSU's engineering program, send me an e-mail and I'd be glad to tell you more: bloom@engr.orst.edu

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