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Offline B3YT

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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2010, 11:24:16 AM »
Sure, the Spit8 can out-turn it in an ever so slow and as tight as can get turn fight, but the 16 can just reverse roll right out of there and out accelerate, out climb, and is faster than the 8.  The turn radius of them both is close enough to negate an argument either way, just like the comparisons between the Spit 8 and Spit 9.       


 you forget sir that the spit IX is the spit  XVI ergo .  you can compare the IX and the VIII .  The XVI is the spit IXLFe
With the same fuel the spit VIII will out accelerate the Spit IXLFe  at altitude   and out turn it at most speeds , it will fly better in a knife fight too.   The spit VIII has a  much bigger blower than the  spit IXLFe  with a higher boost rating. 
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2010, 11:38:15 AM »
Guppy, Bronk and Greebo have the relevant posts in this thread.
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2010, 05:00:12 PM »
More  :cry?

The spits have 2 weaknesses than can be successfully exploited if you look for them instead of whining.

1. Horrible over the nose view.
2. They retain E well ...as in they do not scrub it off as well as some other AC.

Now I'll leave it to you to figure out how to use those tid bits... if you stop whining that is.


I did not "whine/cry" from the start.  I wont argue against either of those 2 points, I agree as I already use them both to my advantage when a Spit gets on my 6...  if you'd stop insinuating your Holy-ness in such matters then perhaps you will realize you are adding nothing to the discussion.  Few things are more fun than to do a rolling scissors around a Spit 8 while in a 190a-8 and know that the Spit8 player has a puzzled look on their face.

Which color will the sling of mud be?  Or... do you want to keep trollin'? 
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2010, 06:16:18 PM »
Spit VIIIs are for dweebs, real men fly the Spit IX.
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2010, 12:50:28 AM »
The spit VIII has a  much bigger blower than the  spit IXLFe  with a higher boost rating. 
A Spitfire LF.Mk VIII, like in AH, and a Spitfire LF.Mk IX both have the same engine, a Merlin 66, and hence the same blower and the same boost settings on a given fuel grade.
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2010, 03:43:09 AM »
I feel like all Spitfire threads cover the exact same material... :rolleyes:
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2010, 11:32:54 AM »
I thought we had the spit VIII F in Ah
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2010, 02:54:29 PM »
I thought we had the spit VIII F in Ah

Nope.  Spit LFVIII  Merlin 66
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2010, 08:03:53 AM »
Now if we could get the LFIX (e) or the FXVI in the game cuz I would love to try out those 5" guns on a spit, wahoo!
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2010, 10:04:55 AM »
it can roll *better* than the 190's

no sir, it cannot.  190s had the fastest roll rate of the war, bar none.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/naca868-rollchart.jpg
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2010, 10:28:58 AM »
Now if we could get the LFIX (e) or the FXVI in the game cuz I would love to try out those 5" guns on a spit, wahoo!

There was no FXVI.  They were all LFXVIe
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2010, 10:33:19 AM »
no sir, it cannot.  190s had the fastest roll rate of the war, bar none.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/naca868-rollchart.jpg

The rate of roll between the Spit16 and any of the 190's in AH is quite minuscule.  The only advantage the 190's have in the roll is the performance band is larger, meaning the 190's can still roll fast at higher speeds (400mph+) where as the Spit16 will have clammed up.  Otherwise, the Spit16 can roll with any 190 in AH at speeds of 150-350mph.

I wont argue that in the real deal the 190's had the best roll rate bar none, but this is AH.  
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2010, 02:34:00 PM »
The rate of roll between the Spit16 and any of the 190's in AH is quite minuscule.  The only advantage the 190's have in the roll is the performance band is larger, meaning the 190's can still roll fast at higher speeds (400mph+) where as the Spit16 will have clammed up.  Otherwise, the Spit16 can roll with any 190 in AH at speeds of 150-350mph.

I wont argue that in the real deal the 190's had the best roll rate bar none, but this is AH.  


You gents do understand that the Spit wing was clipped because of the 190 roll rate?  It closed the gap considerably.
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2010, 03:47:02 PM »
Sure, the Spit8 can out-turn it in an ever so slow and as tight as can get turn fight, but the 16 can just reverse roll right out of there and out accelerate, out climb, and is faster than the 8.

Yeah the Spit 16 16 can just reverse roll right out of there and out accelerate, out climb, and is faster than the 8, but the Spit 16 better bug out at the right time ... I have yet to find any plane that can fly faster than .303s and 20mms being shot at them from D200 to D400.
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2010, 03:47:14 PM »
You gents do understand that the Spit wing was clipped because of the 190 roll rate?  It closed the gap considerably.

yep, knew that.  :aok    clipped wing spits can roll like a mofo.  however minute the difference, 190 still has the edge  :D
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