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Offline Pigslilspaz

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Defense in Mossie
« on: September 16, 2010, 01:15:31 PM »
Yes I know alt and speed are the best defense, but tooling around in offline mode, I discovered that once you are at a good speed (~300+) in formation, you can pull a full turn, and turn full around and even get on your own drone's 6 o'clock position through turning, and not lose the drones. Basically, it's a HIGHLY manuverable formation and if you do encounter someone who set up a perfect intercept run, this is probably your best bet.

Also, tried some other things as well that worked.

P.S. I tested everything with 50% fuel and full 5000 lb load out at ~7.5k

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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 02:42:31 AM »
I would still stick to alt and speed, even if you do manuver onto there six then what?  I do a loop and shoot you when you are slow from all the manuvering you did? it was a good thought, but I cant see this defense tactic in the mossie ever being usefull at the alt you tested at
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2010, 09:12:38 PM »
I fly her lone gunman.  Keep your moves short, keep your alt, keep your E.  I did see those drones stick to the enemy I was trying to nail, on the deck, in a K4 though.

I would NOT fly her anywhere below 15k, and the only reason I say 15k is cause that was that alt kvuo75 tried to keel me at.  Quite honestly, 20k is where I call the hard deck now. 

BTW.... I just flew the same MossieB, single "sortie" for 24 hours with few enemy contacts.
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2010, 10:11:48 PM »
If you're in a position where someone is that close, you've already lost. At that point, your best bet is good old fashioned dumb luck.
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 08:07:11 PM »
In a Mossie, your best defense is a damned good offense.  The Mossi can out turn a good amount of aircraft, but it has such poor acceleration (unless u can nose down and use WEP) that once you've used a tight turn to shake your trailer you has best be doing everything in your power to get as much E back as you can.

The quad 20mm's are you best defense: make sure they are pointing at your enemy as much as possible.   ;)
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2010, 08:23:52 PM »
In a Mossie, your best defense is a damned good offense.  The Mossi can out turn a good amount of aircraft, but it has such poor acceleration (unless u can nose down and use WEP) that once you've used a tight turn to shake your trailer you has best be doing everything in your power to get as much E back as you can.

The quad 20mm's are you best defense: make sure they are pointing at your enemy as much as possible.   ;)

Yeah, you're completely lost.

We're talking about the new Mossie B.XVI bomber, which has no guns.
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 03:14:42 AM »
We're talking about the new Mossie B.XVI bomber, which has no guns.
What was De-havilland smoking?! He should have added defensive turrets and two more engines to compensate for the weight.
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 10:14:06 AM »
In a Mossie, your best defense is a damned good offense.  The Mossi can out turn a good amount of aircraft, but it has such poor acceleration (unless u can nose down and use WEP) that once you've used a tight turn to shake your trailer you has best be doing everything in your power to get as much E back as you can.

The quad 20mm's are you best defense: make sure they are pointing at your enemy as much as possible.   ;)

I have found that flying the Mossie like I do in the 38, I have had quite a bit of success with it. Trick is to stay skinny in the fight. If you can do that, you shouldn't have too much trouble mixing it up in the furballs.
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 11:07:19 AM »
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I have found that flying the Mossie like I do in the 38, I have had quite a bit of success with it. Trick is to stay skinny in the fight. If you can do that, you shouldn't have too much trouble mixing it up in the furballs.
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 03:40:30 PM »
:headscratch:

Well, rumor has it that both are bombers so it seems to make sense... :noid

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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 05:03:51 PM »
This is a case of, "I don't wanna read the whole read".  :banana:
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2010, 05:09:07 PM »
Here is a film about how a sucsessful defense in a Mossie16 can look like:

Defense in Mossie

As you can see, the combination of speed and agility gives the Mossie a lot of different options to get out of an engagement unharmed, just dont fly it like a bomber,
meaning leave your drones home, and do some ACM when needed. 


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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 11:54:53 AM »
If you'd been in a Mossie VI that P-47D-25 wouldn't have had a prayer.  Even if you had been out of the 20mm ammo.
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Re: Defense in Mossie
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2010, 02:37:15 PM »
What was De-havilland smoking?! He should have added defensive turrets and two more engines to compensate for the weight.

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