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109G in-cockpit footage
« on: September 30, 2010, 03:07:13 PM »
Still upset that I never got to see this bird fly. But at least they made some great vids of it while they could!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUcENor7X_0&feature=grec_index
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 07:24:28 PM »
great video!

As a guy with broad shoulders i don't think i can fit in that plane.
since there's not enough shoulder room to yank the stick left/right that plane would be a beeyatch to roll at high speeds :joystick:


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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 08:15:46 PM »
Nice footage. Thanks for the post.
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 08:37:38 PM »
Nice :aok

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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 08:44:55 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQvvkYyb2iU

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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 09:32:39 PM »
i friggin LOVE seeing stuff like this.

question. inner wing. something resembling a tiny inboard aileron sticking up. what are they?
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 10:08:48 PM »
i friggin LOVE seeing stuff like this.

question. inner wing. something resembling a tiny inboard aileron sticking up. what are they?

Without seeing what you are also looking at (ie- a point in the film), my guess would be the radiator 'clamshell' doors along the rear 1/3 of the inner wing.
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2010, 12:15:47 AM »
that was great footage, and an amazing sounding plane, may I ask what they were cranking before they started it? as all the war birds I get close to are under constuction, or being worked on, I have never seen how they are started
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2010, 12:41:55 AM »
Not huge fan of the 109s in the game, but real ones is completely different story  :aok
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2010, 03:34:49 AM »
I have some close up photos of this aircraft if anyone wants them. It's a G-2 Trop I believe, the type that Marseille died in.
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2010, 03:41:00 AM »
It's an inertial starter Imowface. You spin a small flywheel up to high speed with a crank handle and then that energy is released to turn the engine over.
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 11:14:41 AM »
that was great footage, and an amazing sounding plane, may I ask what they were cranking before they started it? as all the war birds I get close to are under constuction, or being worked on, I have never seen how they are started

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5LBUVS1T8

Here is another example of them starting a Dora. Love the sound :rock
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 11:20:16 AM »
Without seeing what you are also looking at (ie- a point in the film), my guess would be the radiator 'clamshell' doors along the rear 1/3 of the inner wing.

in the very beginning of the video, it almost looks like a little flap, on the inner wing, against the fuselage....but it's sticking up.
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 12:32:53 PM »
It's an inertial starter Imowface. You spin a small flywheel up to high speed with a crank handle and then that energy is released to turn the engine over.


okay so it is similar to crank starting a car, but you are just spining the starter?, does the pilot then engage the flywheel himself after it is spinning?
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Re: 109G in-cockpit footage
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 04:22:52 PM »
With a starting crank on a car you are actually turning the engine directly. One turn of the hand crank = one turn of the engine.

With an Inertial Starter you first spin a small flywheel up to a very high speed, that's why it takes ages before they pull the crank handle out and try to start the engine. One turn of the crank handle = many many turns of the flywheel. The pilot engages the Inertial Starter in the same way as an electric starter, but there is no drain on the electrical system, it's just stored kinetic energy. Electrics weren't as refined in the 1940s and an Inertial Starter was a good solution, also lightweight considering it is turning over a 35 litre V12 piston engine!
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