Author Topic: '' SIDE SWITCHING""  (Read 3264 times)

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23939
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2010, 01:34:59 PM »
I understand the need to have the ability to change sides.  I just don’t think it is necessary to have that ability to be hourly.  
I’d like to see it work something like this:  When you become a paid member you choice a side  or a team.  You can weekly choice to change sides.  When you sign on you have the option to either enter on the side of your chosen team or select auto balancing and automatically be placed on the side with the lowest numbers.


For many, the need to changes sides it the need to find a fight, especially when having only limited time at hand.

For example, 2 nights ago the numbers were like 120 Bish, 80 Knight, 100 Rook. I was already in the outnumbered country (Knight), but there was absolutely no fight on the Knight/Rook front (mainly due to geographic reasons). Both Knights & Rook piled on Bish, so I had the choice of flying on the absolutely quiet front rook front (yawn), or fly into a battle with full green and only tiny red darbar (yawn). Instead I chose to hop to the Bish and had a lot of fights to chose from, most of them with more red than green. I call that balancing :)

That's why I think your proposal.... sucks ;)
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

In November 2025, Lusche will return for a 20th anniversary tour. Get your tickets now!

Offline Traveler

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3148
      • 113th Lucky Strikes
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2010, 01:48:24 PM »

For many, the need to changes sides it the need to find a fight, especially when having only limited time at hand.

For example, 2 nights ago the numbers were like 120 Bish, 80 Knight, 100 Rook. I was already in the outnumbered country (Knight), but there was absolutely no fight on the Knight/Rook front (mainly due to geographic reasons). Both Knights & Rook piled on Bish, so I had the choice of flying on the absolutely quiet front rook front (yawn), or fly into a battle with full green and only tiny red darbar (yawn). Instead I chose to hop to the Bish and had a lot of fights to chose from, most of them with more red than green. I call that balancing :)

That's why I think your proposal.... sucks ;)

I’ll put you down as undecided.  It’s interesting that you wanted a quick fight but chose the MA and not DA for the quick fight when you had limited time.  Your interest was not to balance the sides you wanted a quick fight in the MA so you were forced to change sides to make it the 121 Bish, 79 Knight, 100 Rook.  I think it’s telling that you didn’t chose the Rooks.   Your need for the quick fight was to go to the side with the most numbers.  Interesting.
Traveler
Executive Officer
113th LUcky Strikes
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/113th_Lucky_Strikes

Offline Guppy35

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 20387
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2010, 02:02:21 PM »
I’m trying to understand so please don’t take this the wrong way, how does changing sides “find fights”?


Last night was a perfect example.  Logged on as Knit as apparently I'd been Knit the last time one.  Not a fight to be seen.  Huge dar bars between Rook and Bish.  Went Bish as they were low.  Found two ongoing very good fights right away.  I don't have that much flying time.  When I do get on, I want to have as much cartoon combat as I can. 

I could care less who wins the map and gets their reset perks.  I had one arm bending, down on the deck knife fight with bcadoo in his Spit 9.  We went round and round for a long time trying to get the angle on each other.  Ended up getting shot down by a 109 that came into the fight.  Didn't matter.  That one fight made my night.  Flew a bit more with some squadies and others and enjoyed the couple hours I got to fly after the little one went to sleep.

If loyalty to a cartoon chess piece is your thing, go for it.  To limit folks because you are worried about 'spies' and winning the war is just silly and to me speaks to taking this way too seriously.

Dan/CorkyJr
8th FS "Headhunters

Offline Guppy35

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 20387
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2010, 02:13:11 PM »
I’ll put you down as undecided.  It’s interesting that you wanted a quick fight but chose the MA and not DA for the quick fight when you had limited time.  Your interest was not to balance the sides you wanted a quick fight in the MA so you were forced to change sides to make it the 121 Bish, 79 Knight, 100 Rook.  I think it’s telling that you didn’t chose the Rooks.   Your need for the quick fight was to go to the side with the most numbers.  Interesting.


As for the go to the DA if you want a quick fight argument.  You forget there is a social aspect to this game as well.  Generally the folks I enjoy BS'ing with from all sides, tend to be in the MA.  They may be base takers, or bomber pilots along with fighter drivers.  Could be talking history on 200 while otw to the fight takes place, or asking how folks are doing.

To try and limit that by sending folks who have less time to fly, and who enjoy cartoon air combat, to the DA so it doesn't interfere with your winning the war, again speaks to taking this far too seriously.
Dan/CorkyJr
8th FS "Headhunters

Offline SPKmes

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3271
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2010, 02:18:18 PM »
I’ll put you down as undecided.  It’s interesting that you wanted a quick fight but chose the MA and not DA for the quick fight when you had limited time.  Your interest was not to balance the sides you wanted a quick fight in the MA so you were forced to change sides to make it the 121 Bish, 79 Knight, 100 Rook.  I think it’s telling that you didn’t chose the Rooks.   Your need for the quick fight was to go to the side with the most numbers.  Interesting.


that last sentence??.....rook / knits not fighting.... 121 gets split to cover two fronts being nailed plus eny(this can be a problem for some)...numbers were actually against the bish during these times

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23939
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2010, 02:19:35 PM »
I’ll put you down as undecided.  It’s interesting that you wanted a quick fight but chose the MA and not DA for the quick fight when you had limited time.  Your interest was not to balance the sides you wanted a quick fight in the MA so you were forced to change sides to make it the 121 Bish, 79 Knight, 100 Rook.  I think it’s telling that you didn’t chose the Rooks.   Your need for the quick fight was to go to the side with the most numbers.  Interesting.

I never said i had limited time, or I were looking for a quick fight.

I was merely looking for any fight. On the Knight side there was none. The only viable option was to switch to a side that had one. And as I do prefer having more enemies than friendlies around, there was only one option at that time - going Bish. What exactly is so wrong with it, that this option has to be removed from gameplay?

Quote
I think it’s telling that you didn’t chose the Rooks.  Your need for the quick fight was to go to the side with the most numbers.  Interesting.
Total BS. Bish were outnumbered by Rooks & Knights. Rooks & Knights had more combined  players than Bish and did NOT fight each other at that point.




Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

In November 2025, Lusche will return for a 20th anniversary tour. Get your tickets now!

Offline Traveler

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3148
      • 113th Lucky Strikes
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2010, 02:34:01 PM »
Last night was a perfect example.  Logged on as Knit as apparently I'd been Knit the last time one.  Not a fight to be seen.  Huge dar bars between Rook and Bish.  Went Bish as they were low.  Found two ongoing very good fights right away.  I don't have that much flying time.  When I do get on, I want to have as much cartoon combat as I can.  

I could care less who wins the map and gets their reset perks.  I had one arm bending, down on the deck knife fight with bcadoo in his Spit 9.  We went round and round for a long time trying to get the angle on each other.  Ended up getting shot down by a 109 that came into the fight.  Didn't matter.  That one fight made my night.  Flew a bit more with some squadies and others and enjoyed the couple hours I got to fly after the little one went to sleep.

If loyalty to a cartoon chess piece is your thing, go for it.  To limit folks because you are worried about 'spies' and winning the war is just silly and to me speaks to taking this way too seriously.



I agree it’s just a game.  I come from an era  where games were played to be won.  I didn’t make the rules for the game, HiTech Creations did and the “xxxxxxx won the war!” is HiTech Creations idea, not mine.  Because of my generations need to win games that we play, if AH didn’t have a winner, I’d not be here.   I wasn’t raised where games had no winners.   AH stated the rules of play and the object of the game.    I play by those rules.   Rules which over time AH had modified from time to time, I continue to play by the rules.  I also grew up in a period where  loyalty had meaning , loyalty to my family, loyalty to my church, school , team.  In Viet Nam loyalty to the guy in the hole next to you.  Loyalty to my wife of 35 years.  Loyalty to my friends,  So loyalty to a cartoon chess piece, to my squad of cartoon chess pieces , sure, why not?  Better question, why aren’t you?     And when I hear people say they can’t find a fight in an arena with a three sided war, who they think they are kidding?  
  
Traveler
Executive Officer
113th LUcky Strikes
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/113th_Lucky_Strikes

Offline Ack-Ack

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 25260
      • FlameWarriors
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2010, 02:35:25 PM »
I agree it’s just a game.  I come from an era  where games were played to be won.  I didn’t make the rules for the game, HiTech Creations did and the “xxxxxxx won the war!” is HiTech Creations idea, not mine.  Because of my generations need to win games that we play, if AH didn’t have a winner, I’d not be here.   I wasn’t raised where games had no winners.   AH stated the rules of play and the object of the game.    I play by those rules.   Rules which over time AH had modified from time to time, I continue to play by the rules.  I also grew up in a period where  loyalty had meaning , loyalty to my family, loyalty to my church, school , team.  In Viet Nam loyalty to the guy in the hole next to you.  Loyalty to my wife of 35 years.  Loyalty to my friends,  So loyalty to a cartoon chess piece, to my squad of cartoon chess pieces , sure, why not?  Better question, why aren’t you?     And when I hear people say they can’t find a fight in an arena with a three sided war, who they think they are kidding?  
  


Yep, I was right.  You'll never get it. 


ack-ack
"If Jesus came back as an airplane, he would be a P-38." - WW2 P-38 pilot
Elite Top Aces +1 Mexican Official Squadron Song

Offline Traveler

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3148
      • 113th Lucky Strikes
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2010, 02:42:36 PM »
Yep, I was right.  You'll never get it. 


ack-ack

Get what ?  Please explain it to me.
Traveler
Executive Officer
113th LUcky Strikes
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/113th_Lucky_Strikes

Offline RufusLeaking

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1056
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2010, 04:34:08 PM »
I also grew up in a period where  loyalty had meaning , loyalty to my family, loyalty to my church, school , team.  In Viet Nam loyalty to the guy in the hole next to you.  Loyalty to my wife of 35 years.  Loyalty to my friends,  
Loyalty as you lay it out is a good thing.  You describe real life, meaningful examples. 

So loyalty to a cartoon chess piece, to my squad of cartoon chess pieces , sure, why not?  Better question, why aren’t you? 
First, this is not the real world.  It is a safe simulation of deadly activities.

Second,it is an individual choice.  If you want to stick with one country, knock yourself out.  If anyone wants to switch teams, more power to them.

Third, it is fun to fly against friends every once in a while. 

And when I hear people say they can’t find a fight in an arena with a three sided war, who they think they are kidding? 
Personally, I switch sides to find a good fight, or to fly with a buddy.  Good fight?  It could be one side is rolling bases, and I want to defend or join in.  It could be to get away from the dreaded green feeding frenzy, where assists abound.   
GameID: RufLeak
Claim Jumpers

Offline Guppy35

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 20387
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2010, 04:56:38 PM »
I agree it’s just a game.  I come from an era  where games were played to be won.  I didn’t make the rules for the game, HiTech Creations did and the “xxxxxxx won the war!” is HiTech Creations idea, not mine.  Because of my generations need to win games that we play, if AH didn’t have a winner, I’d not be here.   I wasn’t raised where games had no winners.   AH stated the rules of play and the object of the game.    I play by those rules.   Rules which over time AH had modified from time to time, I continue to play by the rules.  I also grew up in a period where  loyalty had meaning , loyalty to my family, loyalty to my church, school , team.  In Viet Nam loyalty to the guy in the hole next to you.  Loyalty to my wife of 35 years.  Loyalty to my friends,  So loyalty to a cartoon chess piece, to my squad of cartoon chess pieces , sure, why not?  Better question, why aren’t you?     And when I hear people say they can’t find a fight in an arena with a three sided war, who they think they are kidding?  
  


I do believe we're from roughly the same era then so don't lay the 'back in my day' BS on me please.   The 'win the war' bit is only one aspect of the 'Game".  No one 'wins' anything but a do-over in that part of the game.  My loyalty is to the people I've met in the game, and it's played with the understanding that them and me having fun is the key, since this isn't real.  I have no 'enemies' in this game, just other folks who share an interest in WW2 history and aircraft.

You also argue that Hitech put the 'win the war' in the game.  OK fair enough.  He also put the ability to switch sides in the game.  Guess it's a non discussion then.  Don't see many posts from the guys like me who play to fight other cartoon airplanes wishing for the base capture, win the war bit to be removed do you?

Apparently Hitech had a broader vision for the game and those who might be interested in it, then just 'win the war'
Dan/CorkyJr
8th FS "Headhunters

Offline grizz441

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7001
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2010, 06:17:09 PM »
You also argue that Hitech put the 'win the war' in the game.  OK fair enough.  He also put the ability to switch sides in the game.  Guess it's a non discussion then.

Pwnt!  :rock

Offline Dadsguns

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1979
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2010, 07:06:25 PM »
Pwnt!  :rock

 :rofl

I switched today to bish because (get this) they were outnumbered this time...   :D  and had a good time flying over a knit and rook furball as a bish......  :aok

Sort of sad though, they had another cv hidden not being used :rolleyes:


"Your intelligence is measured by those around you; if you spend your days with idiots you seal your own fate."

Offline Ack-Ack

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 25260
      • FlameWarriors
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2010, 08:23:20 PM »
:rofl

I switched today to bish because (get this) they were outnumbered this time...   :D  and had a good time flying over a knit and rook furball as a bish......  :aok

Sort of sad though, they had another cv hidden not being used :rolleyes:

You unloyal SOB switching sides.  You should be flogged and dragged around the town by horses.  Your type ruin this game with all your side switching nonsense.

ack-ack
"If Jesus came back as an airplane, he would be a P-38." - WW2 P-38 pilot
Elite Top Aces +1 Mexican Official Squadron Song

Offline Rino

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8495
Re: '' SIDE SWITCHING""
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2010, 08:49:43 PM »
     The great thing is I could care less if someone doesn't like my country jumping..whoo whoo  :D
80th FS Headhunters
PHAN
Proud veteran of the Cola Wars